10/30: Michigan Man Sues for Right to Put Back Family’s Nativity Scene on Public Median
Posted by Editor on October 30, 2009 · 16 Comments
A Michigan man has filed a federal lawsuit claiming his constitutional rights were violated when he was ordered to remove a Nativity scene from the median of a public road — a creche that his family has displayed at the location for 63 years.
John Satawa, of Warren, Mich., filed the lawsuit in U.S. District Court on Friday in an attempt to be allowed to put back the 8- by 8-foot Nativity scene his late father built in 1945.
Stonewall, that’s a good name for you.
you folks are strange, Christianity has been a part of our nation from day one. Did they acknowledge our creator in the Declaration of Independence, Open meeting with prayer, our nation has been born, bathed, and brought up on Christian truth, values , and the Word of God…only recently have we had the reversal of truth and Orwellian speak. We shall see where we end up .. it is a tragedy of blindness…
Sorry, “strange” people have got ya there bullhockey. Doesn’t matter that Christianity has been a part since day one, how many meetings opened with prayer, or that the creator was mentioned in the Declaration. The Constitution is the law of the land, and prohibits the establishment of religion by the government. The founders knew what they were doing on this one. Allow the government and religion to overlap, and the majority religion would seek to push out all minority faiths, and there could be no religious liberty. There were hundreds of this for them to follow, and there have been hundreds since. So please keep The Bible out of The Constitution. Jefferson and Madison certainly did.
You are so right but Al is an Atheist so he wants to throw God in with the bad things he names such as the mistreatment of Blacks and Japanees and how ugly the Klan was ( and these things were/are ugly and not pleasing to God ) but to put God in the same boat with the ugliness of mankind shows how off track his thinking is. Human mistreatment and wrongs should be corrected but believing in and showing a love for God is not a wrong thing and it HURTS no one…..one is free to ignor and NOT believe in God. Those who don’t believe in God are trying to hurt those who do believe in Him. Now who’s being ugly? Our Nation was built on Christian values and the laws were written from the Commandments. The real battle is over what is moral and what is not. To eliminate God is to make the argument go away and morals will go away too. Without morals, humans are free to act like animals….then watch how much more they will mistreat each other.
What Christian values was our nation founded on?
Which of our laws were written from the commandments?
Can you help me on that one?
Actually on day one the religion in this country was that of the American Indian.
Actually on day ONE, of the beginning of man, was the religion that there was a Supreme Creator, a power greater than ourselves, even the American Indian beleived that. The real issue is our FREEDOM to express our belief….a freedom that is now being condemned and challenged by those who are offended by Christianity or don’t even believe in God. ( NOTE: the Muslims were allowed a prayer day in Washington DC this year but our National Day of Prayer was ignored by Obama so no one would be offended…..what’s that all about? )
Actually on day one, the religion in this country was that of native Americans.
And they are still free to worship the way they want to which is more than the Christians are getting lately. You like to live in the past to make an argument. No one is attacking the native Americans for their faith so why bring it up? Christians seem to be the new group to be hated in this country……that’s why so many are upset. The Left cried out for fairness and led MANY protest to achieve fairness but they only want to be fair to the “groups” they like. They contradict their own protest cry.
…more than Christians are getting lately?
You think Christians are being persecuted in this country?
You’re as nuts as Beck is.
He has a difficult battle ahead of him because the First Amendment clearly prohibits his actions on public property. The forefathers were very careful to avoid anything that could be interpreted as “especially Christianity.”
You are right of course about the “puplic property” but why didn’t anyone mind back in 1945?
People most certainly did mind. Many also minded segregated schools in 1945, and the poll tax to keep poor blacks from voting, and whites only hotels, and Japanese internment camps, and Klan lynchings in the south. But as history has proven sometimes it takes the courts and politicians some time to garner the courage to use the Bill of Rights to defend minority and unpopular opinions. Which, like it or not, was the very purpose of the Bill of Rights.
They want those Christian idols on public ground to let Muslims and Hindus and Jews and especially people like you, Atheist Al, see what a “Christian nation” this is. But Atheist Al and Muslim Malik and Hindu Harry and Jeremiah Jew all have the Constitution on their side, and that drives Nativity Nutbags nuts.
Freedom of religion does not mean I can put a statue of Satan in the city park (if I were to worship Satan) or one of Buddha in the lawn of the state capitol. I am free to do so on my own property, but not on public property.
I like Nativity scenes personally. But I don’t want Satan scenes in the median of the road either. The Constitution prevents the government from deciding what is an okay religion and what is not, which is exactly what the Founding Fathers intended.
I fear he may have a difficult battle ahead of him because there seems to be an awful lot of people who are “afraid” of the baby Jesus, otherwise why would so many fight to keep Him out of sight? Freedom of religion, especially Christianity, is no longer an American dream….the dream our forefathers had and fought to establish.