Comments on: 9/18: Remember to Look at the Big Picture http://www.the912project.com/2009/09/18/918-remember-to-look-at-the-big-picture/ 9 Values - 12 Principals Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:42:22 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: bhmsonlib http://www.the912project.com/2009/09/18/918-remember-to-look-at-the-big-picture/comment-page-1/#comment-481028 bhmsonlib Tue, 22 Sep 2009 15:26:50 +0000 http://www.the912project.com/?p=3785#comment-481028 My comments seem to have been removed by the moderators. Unfortunate, since my comments were far more civil, and more civilly stated, than many, if not most, of the ones posted below. My comments were an educated man's reply to wstr's comments of 9/21/09 at 8:33 PM, in which he/she declared that Glenn was "unqualified" to make the assertions he makes, based upon Glenn's lack of formal education (indoctrination), referring to Glenn as "a poorly educated individual." My reply was that of a person who has been through that system, including my having a Master's degree from it, that I find Glenn's position very much qualified, in, at least, that he usually has also supplied a reading list from individual authors who also have been through that formal system. I also added a couple additional authors, such as Roger Kimball (author of "The Long March") and Myron Magnet (author of "The Dream and the Nightmare"), regarding the history of the Left, to Glenn's own bibliographic recommendations, including David Horowitz (author of "Left Illusions") and Ronald Pestritto (author of "Woodrow Wilson and the Roots of Modern Liberalism"), to whom Glenn alludes in his commentary(ies). All of these authors have also been through the formal system. You can imagine my dismay upon finding my comments totally absent from this discourse, considering some of the comments below. It makes me suspicious regarding the moderators, and whether their purpose is truly to educate, or just to allow a typical "blog," most of which are completely useless, and only serve the Left's purposes by engaging individuals with whom they disagree by distracting them into things which do not matter, when they should be "out there," "fighting the good fight." If my comments, including last night's, are not to be allowed, please send them back to me, at the email address I have provided, so I may use them in my book, along with their source. Thank you. My comments seem to have been removed by the moderators. Unfortunate, since my comments were far more civil, and more civilly stated, than many, if not most, of the ones posted below. My comments were an educated man’s reply to wstr’s comments of 9/21/09 at 8:33 PM, in which he/she declared that Glenn was “unqualified” to make the assertions he makes, based upon Glenn’s lack of formal education (indoctrination), referring to Glenn as “a poorly educated individual.” My reply was that of a person who has been through that system, including my having a Master’s degree from it, that I find Glenn’s position very much qualified, in, at least, that he usually has also supplied a reading list from individual authors who also have been through that formal system. I also added a couple additional authors, such as Roger Kimball (author of “The Long March”) and Myron Magnet (author of “The Dream and the Nightmare”), regarding the history of the Left, to Glenn’s own bibliographic recommendations, including David Horowitz (author of “Left Illusions”) and Ronald Pestritto (author of “Woodrow Wilson and the Roots of Modern Liberalism”), to whom Glenn alludes in his commentary(ies). All of these authors have also been through the formal system. You can imagine my dismay upon finding my comments totally absent from this discourse, considering some of the comments below. It makes me suspicious regarding the moderators, and whether their purpose is truly to educate, or just to allow a typical “blog,” most of which are completely useless, and only serve the Left’s purposes by engaging individuals with whom they disagree by distracting them into things which do not matter, when they should be “out there,” “fighting the good fight.” If my comments, including last night’s, are not to be allowed, please send them back to me, at the email address I have provided, so I may use them in my book, along with their source. Thank you.

]]> By: wstr http://www.the912project.com/2009/09/18/918-remember-to-look-at-the-big-picture/comment-page-1/#comment-480841 wstr Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:33:41 +0000 http://www.the912project.com/?p=3785#comment-480841 mr beck talks about "fringe media" as if he doesn't realize that he - is - the fringe media. sometimes there's a faint glimmer of truth to some of what he says, but most is simply the paranoid raving of a poorly educated individual with nothing in his background to even vaguely qualify him to make the assertions he makes. you would all do better to spend your time reading your health insurance policy, which 90% or more of you have never even seen, because your company and its insurer try to make it difficult for you to see it. you will learn more from a couple hours there than all day on this site. then you will learn why you are being herded like sheep by big pharma and the insurance cos. -- the things you fear about the current reform plans are nothing more than what you are living with today, jut in the form of private cos. instead. what makes them better suited to decide what treatment you get? study up on this, put your paranoia behind you, and learn, learn, learn. mr beck talks about “fringe media” as if he doesn’t realize that he – is – the fringe media.

sometimes there’s a faint glimmer of truth to some of what he says, but most is simply the paranoid raving of a poorly educated individual with nothing in his background to even vaguely qualify him to make the assertions he makes.

you would all do better to spend your time reading your health insurance policy, which 90% or more of you have never even seen, because your company and its insurer try to make it difficult for you to see it. you will learn more from a couple hours there than all day on this site. then you will learn why you are being herded like sheep by big pharma and the insurance cos. — the things you fear about the current reform plans are nothing more than what you are living with today, jut in the form of private cos. instead. what makes them better suited to decide what treatment you get?

study up on this, put your paranoia behind you, and learn, learn, learn.

]]> By: kygater http://www.the912project.com/2009/09/18/918-remember-to-look-at-the-big-picture/comment-page-1/#comment-480810 kygater Mon, 21 Sep 2009 13:23:51 +0000 http://www.the912project.com/?p=3785#comment-480810 While this all makes a LOT of sense, I suspect this goes perhaps even deeper. Once you get into people like Soros funding these organizations, you have to look into why foreign interests are so interested. Then you see how deeply GE is involved (alongside Obama) as they shape foreign agendas and their profit worldwide they could receive should the cap & trade succeed. Watch as Obama meets with the U.N. General Assembly this week. I believe the people behind Obama have an even broader global agenda which includes reducing our economic viability in order to achieve their goals. While this all makes a LOT of sense, I suspect this goes perhaps even deeper. Once you get into people like Soros funding these organizations, you have to look into why foreign interests are so interested. Then you see how deeply GE is involved (alongside Obama) as they shape foreign agendas and their profit worldwide they could receive should the cap & trade succeed. Watch as Obama meets with the U.N. General Assembly this week. I believe the people behind Obama have an even broader global agenda which includes reducing our economic viability in order to achieve their goals.

]]> By: viper http://www.the912project.com/2009/09/18/918-remember-to-look-at-the-big-picture/comment-page-1/#comment-480806 viper Mon, 21 Sep 2009 12:48:37 +0000 http://www.the912project.com/?p=3785#comment-480806 free man, I thought the same thing. I don't think the problem is one of censorship. I think there's a problem with the website. Sometimes I can't log in and then when I finally do it prevents me from posting to the page that I was on when I logged in (but I can on others). It's slow as well. I think it's a technical issue, not a censorship issue. free man, I thought the same thing.

I don’t think the problem is one of censorship.

I think there’s a problem with the website.

Sometimes I can’t log in and then when I finally do it prevents me from posting to the page that I was on when I logged in (but I can on others).

It’s slow as well. I think it’s a technical issue, not a censorship issue.

]]> By: viper http://www.the912project.com/2009/09/18/918-remember-to-look-at-the-big-picture/comment-page-1/#comment-480804 viper Mon, 21 Sep 2009 12:32:14 +0000 http://www.the912project.com/?p=3785#comment-480804 Nice try pedro. Profit is good. More profit is better. Until you mature and evolve enough to (at the very least) grasp the basic fundamentals, you should confine yourself to venues like the daily KOS. Have you asked yourself who is profiting from polluting YOUR MIND? Obviously not. Nice try pedro.

Profit is good. More profit is better.

Until you mature and evolve enough to (at the very least) grasp the basic fundamentals, you should confine yourself to venues like the daily KOS.

Have you asked yourself who is profiting from polluting YOUR MIND? Obviously not.

]]> By: viper http://www.the912project.com/2009/09/18/918-remember-to-look-at-the-big-picture/comment-page-1/#comment-480803 viper Mon, 21 Sep 2009 11:56:29 +0000 http://www.the912project.com/?p=3785#comment-480803 Keep talking jimbo. This is GREAT stuff! (for our side, I mean) Such drama.... Who was there to hear Mary Jo's last breath? Not Ted, he was on his way back to the hotel for a good night's sleep. AND, BTW jimbo, in case you're wondering, nobody thinks that a man with brain cancer spent his last day crafting letters. He didn't even go to his sister's funeral. Keep talking jimbo.

This is GREAT stuff! (for our side, I mean)

Such drama….

Who was there to hear Mary Jo’s last breath? Not Ted, he was on his way back to the hotel for a good night’s sleep.

AND, BTW jimbo, in case you’re wondering, nobody thinks that a man with brain cancer spent his last day crafting letters. He didn’t even go to his sister’s funeral.

]]> By: viper http://www.the912project.com/2009/09/18/918-remember-to-look-at-the-big-picture/comment-page-1/#comment-480802 viper Mon, 21 Sep 2009 11:51:16 +0000 http://www.the912project.com/?p=3785#comment-480802 If Obama opposed infanticide, maybe our numbers would improve. nice try pedro, but your comment doesn't pass the laugh test If Obama opposed infanticide, maybe our numbers would improve.

nice try pedro, but your comment doesn’t pass the laugh test

]]> By: viper http://www.the912project.com/2009/09/18/918-remember-to-look-at-the-big-picture/comment-page-1/#comment-480801 viper Mon, 21 Sep 2009 11:50:06 +0000 http://www.the912project.com/?p=3785#comment-480801 About infant mortality.... if Obama would oppose infanticide, maybe our numbers would improve. nice try pedro About infant mortality…. if Obama would oppose infanticide, maybe our numbers would improve.

nice try pedro

]]> By: disgustedbutpersevering http://www.the912project.com/2009/09/18/918-remember-to-look-at-the-big-picture/comment-page-1/#comment-480793 disgustedbutpersevering Mon, 21 Sep 2009 04:24:22 +0000 http://www.the912project.com/?p=3785#comment-480793 I think what is really needed are people with a conscience, resolve and involvement. Does that exist in American politics or media? Does it still exist in main-stream American society? I watch the programs, I read the blogs (both sides), and one thing is paramount. American ignorance and apathy cannot be countered or corrected with a) shouting, b) posturing, c) misrepresentation. I think it is a good thing that people are becoming interested in politics. We have left it very late indeed. But they should be IN politics, not commenting on the fringe. We let other people do our thinking, our research, and our representation, and then cry ware! cheat! It's time EVERY American stood up to the plate, and took a turn at batting. We rely on "everybody else", when this country was founded by self-reliant people. It would be a good idea if well-meaning bloggers stopped arguing emotionally with half-informed (or uninformed) OPINIONS and instead started arguing FACTS. Oh, yeah... that takes EFFORT and COMMITTMENT. We are ALL responsible for our future. If it looks grim, it's because we haven't put our time, our effort, or our money where our mouth is. Let's work together for a rational solution, one that leaves name calling, bias, supposition, and absolute falsehood out of the equation. Glen Beck is a commentator, but I'd like to think that he is doing his program from a sense of urgency and committment, not just gain or opportunism. You have to ask yourself... Is he getting results? Is he moving the sludge that has been substituted for American cooperation, involvement and ingenuity? Is he encouraging assiduous involvement in policing our government and it's so-called representatives? Is he promoting self governance and individual responsibility? Then regardless of his motivations, and you can only SPECULATE on that, the proof is in the results. Regardless of your perspective, if you are truthful with yourself, you have to admit that we have been standing on the sidelines, or completely out of the loop for too long and are reaping what we've sown. If you are truthful and informed, you have to admit that we have lost our representation in this country and are being lead by self-serving, self-interested people who are misrepresenting all Americans for their own personal gain. I don't think you will find ANY informed American who will disagree with that. It's time we PARTICIPATED in our own society and its governance. I have one disagreement with Glen Beck's stance... we need 304,059,724 + good, honest people to be part of the solution, not 56. I think what is really needed are people with a conscience, resolve and involvement. Does that exist in American politics or media? Does it still exist in main-stream American society? I watch the programs, I read the blogs (both sides), and one thing is paramount. American ignorance and apathy cannot be countered or corrected with a) shouting, b) posturing, c) misrepresentation. I think it is a good thing that people are becoming interested in politics. We have left it very late indeed. But they should be IN politics, not commenting on the fringe. We let other people do our thinking, our research, and our representation, and then cry ware! cheat! It’s time EVERY American stood up to the plate, and took a turn at batting. We rely on “everybody else”, when this country was founded by self-reliant people. It would be a good idea if well-meaning bloggers stopped arguing emotionally with half-informed (or uninformed) OPINIONS and instead started arguing FACTS. Oh, yeah… that takes EFFORT and COMMITTMENT. We are ALL responsible for our future. If it looks grim, it’s because we haven’t put our time, our effort, or our money where our mouth is. Let’s work together for a rational solution, one that leaves name calling, bias, supposition, and absolute falsehood out of the equation. Glen Beck is a commentator, but I’d like to think that he is doing his program from a sense of urgency and committment, not just gain or opportunism. You have to ask yourself… Is he getting results? Is he moving the sludge that has been substituted for American cooperation, involvement and ingenuity? Is he encouraging assiduous involvement in policing our government and it’s so-called representatives? Is he promoting self governance and individual responsibility? Then regardless of his motivations, and you can only SPECULATE on that, the proof is in the results. Regardless of your perspective, if you are truthful with yourself, you have to admit that we have been standing on the sidelines, or completely out of the loop for too long and are reaping what we’ve sown. If you are truthful and informed, you have to admit that we have lost our representation in this country and are being lead by self-serving, self-interested people who are misrepresenting all Americans for their own personal gain. I don’t think you will find ANY informed American who will disagree with that. It’s time we PARTICIPATED in our own society and its governance. I have one disagreement with Glen Beck’s stance… we need 304,059,724 + good, honest people to be part of the solution, not 56.

]]> By: pedroparamo http://www.the912project.com/2009/09/18/918-remember-to-look-at-the-big-picture/comment-page-1/#comment-480791 pedroparamo Mon, 21 Sep 2009 03:43:05 +0000 http://www.the912project.com/?p=3785#comment-480791 Easy to watch indeed. You might stop and ask yourself why Canada has a longer life expectancy, lower infant mortality, lower rates of obesity and, with its current system, a much smaller per capita health care price tag than the U.S. p.s. and it's "contemplate" dear. Easy to watch indeed. You might stop and ask yourself why Canada has a longer life expectancy, lower infant mortality, lower rates of obesity and, with its current system, a much smaller per capita health care price tag than the U.S.

p.s. and it’s “contemplate” dear.

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