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		<title>By: madashell13</title>
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		<dc:creator>madashell13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 01:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That would have been GREAT!!!  But he would have had to throw a white shoe and a black shoe to be fair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That would have been GREAT!!!  But he would have had to throw a white shoe and a black shoe to be fair.</p>
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		<title>By: painereader</title>
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		<dc:creator>painereader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 18:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe Joe W. is half or quarter or whatever part racist. We have to judge him by his behavior -- current and past. 

A large part of America did not vote for the President. All the name-calling and personal attacks are not getting the USA out of the mess of debt, job loss and BS programs. Real leadership, informed support and sensible work will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe Joe W. is half or quarter or whatever part racist. We have to judge him by his behavior &#8212; current and past. </p>
<p>A large part of America did not vote for the President. All the name-calling and personal attacks are not getting the USA out of the mess of debt, job loss and BS programs. Real leadership, informed support and sensible work will.</p>
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		<title>By: viper</title>
		<link>http://www.the912project.com/2009/09/16/when-politicians-yell-fire/comment-page-1/#comment-480479</link>
		<dc:creator>viper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 13:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nobama77 is just saying that some peoples&#039; highest and best use is to take a round meant for someone else.

If the shoe fits.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nobama77 is just saying that some peoples&#8217; highest and best use is to take a round meant for someone else.</p>
<p>If the shoe fits&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: viper</title>
		<link>http://www.the912project.com/2009/09/16/when-politicians-yell-fire/comment-page-1/#comment-480478</link>
		<dc:creator>viper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 12:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting that you&#039;d come to THIS WEB SITE, express yourself, and then tell HIM to shut up.

lol

Since you liberals believe so much in shutting people up, you really do need to move to a communist country.

You have friends there.

We have the right to speak freely here.  That is, as long as we&#039;re willing to fight people like you for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting that you&#8217;d come to THIS WEB SITE, express yourself, and then tell HIM to shut up.</p>
<p>lol</p>
<p>Since you liberals believe so much in shutting people up, you really do need to move to a communist country.</p>
<p>You have friends there.</p>
<p>We have the right to speak freely here.  That is, as long as we&#8217;re willing to fight people like you for it.</p>
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		<title>By: viper</title>
		<link>http://www.the912project.com/2009/09/16/when-politicians-yell-fire/comment-page-1/#comment-480472</link>
		<dc:creator>viper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 12:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like a typical liberal you choose to try to throw out a distraction rather than focus on the issues.

Answer me this New Yorker:

1) How could Joe Wilson be a racist when he insulted someone who is half white?  Does that make Wilson a half a racist?

2) If this country is racist, how could Obama have been elected in the first place?

The bottom line is, the &quot;racist&quot; charge is nothing but a distraction to keep people from seeing what&#039;s right in front of their eyes - OBAMA IS A LIAR AND HE LIED ALL NIGHT LONG in that speech.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like a typical liberal you choose to try to throw out a distraction rather than focus on the issues.</p>
<p>Answer me this New Yorker:</p>
<p>1) How could Joe Wilson be a racist when he insulted someone who is half white?  Does that make Wilson a half a racist?</p>
<p>2) If this country is racist, how could Obama have been elected in the first place?</p>
<p>The bottom line is, the &#8220;racist&#8221; charge is nothing but a distraction to keep people from seeing what&#8217;s right in front of their eyes &#8211; OBAMA IS A LIAR AND HE LIED ALL NIGHT LONG in that speech.</p>
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		<title>By: jimbo</title>
		<link>http://www.the912project.com/2009/09/16/when-politicians-yell-fire/comment-page-1/#comment-480406</link>
		<dc:creator>jimbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 02:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jcs 

i understand capitalism, this is one hell of a deal for the insurance companies.  the are getting a guaranteed market.. 10 - 40 million more customers depending on the data you use.  

That is BILLIONS of new dollars and if the rest of the world is any example of what happens when you have a universal health care strategy here is what you get.

1. The people live longer
2.  Cost is cheaper per person
3. and in all but a few countries they still have a private healthcare system working with the public system.

In some nations private health care steps in and tries to build on what is missing in the public run system.  Stupid business persons will die off in the new market smart ones will adapt.

To the reality.

Your &quot;Death Panel&quot; you are says is so great.. the system that exists today with the private system you want to protect today.  If you change the term to a life panel (a panel that is measure by how long you or a society lives) your panel is the 50th worst life panel in the world.. as a death panel.. 

in short the death panel you PROTECT FOR PRIVATE COMPANIES KILLS YOU FASTER than in 50 othr nations.
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2102rank.html

USA number 50 

1  	Macau  	
84.36
	
2009 est.
2 	Andorra 	
82.51
	
2009 est.
3 	Japan 	
82.12
	
2009 est.
4 	Singapore 	
81.98
	
2009 est.
5 	San Marino 	
81.97
	
2009 est.
6 	Hong Kong 	
81.86
	
2009 est.
7 	Australia 	
81.63
	
2009 est.
8 	Canada 	
81.23
	
2009 est.
9 	France 	
80.98
	
2009 est.
10 	Sweden 	
80.86
	
2009 est.
11 	Switzerland 	
80.85
	
2009 est.
12 	Guernsey 	
80.77
	
2009 est.
13 	Israel 	
80.73
	
2009 est.
14 	Iceland 	
80.67
	
2009 est.
15 	Anguilla 	
80.65
	
2009 est.
16 	Cayman Islands 	
80.44
	
2009 est.
17 	Bermuda 	
80.43
	
2009 est.
18 	New Zealand 	
80.36
	
2009 est.
19 	Italy 	
80.20
	
2009 est.
20 	Gibraltar 	
80.19
	
2009 est.
21 	Monaco 	
80.09
	
2009 est.
22 	Liechtenstein 	
80.06
	
2009 est.
23 	Spain 	
80.05
	
2009 est.
24 	Norway 	
79.95
	
2009 est.
25 	Jersey 	
79.75
	
2009 est.
26 	Greece 	
79.66
	
2009 est.
27 	Austria 	
79.50
	
2009 est.
28 	Faroe Islands 	
79.44
	
2009 est.
29 	Malta 	
79.44
	
2009 est.
30 	Netherlands 	
79.40
	
2009 est.
31 	Luxembourg 	
79.33
	
2009 est.
32 	Germany 	
79.26
	
2009 est.
33 	Belgium 	
79.22
	
2009 est.
34 	Saint Pierre and Miquelon 	
79.07
	
2009 est.
35 	Virgin Islands 	
79.05
	
2009 est.
36 	United Kingdom 	
79.01
	
2009 est.
37 	Finland 	
78.97
	
2009 est.
38 	Jordan 	
78.87
	
2009 est.
39 	Isle of Man 	
78.82
	
2009 est.
40 	Korea, South 	
78.72
	
2009 est.
41 	European Union 	
78.67
	
2009 est.
42 	Puerto Rico 	
78.53
	
2009 est.
43 	Bosnia and Herzegovina 	
78.50
	
2009 est.
44 	Saint Helena 	
78.44
	
2009 est.
45 	Cyprus 	
78.33
	
2009 est.
46 	Denmark 	
78.30
	
2009 est.
47 	Ireland 	
78.24
	
2009 est.
48 	Portugal 	
78.21
	
2009 est.
49 	Wallis and Futuna 	
78.20
	
2009 est.
50 	United States 	
78.11
	
2009 est.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jcs </p>
<p>i understand capitalism, this is one hell of a deal for the insurance companies.  the are getting a guaranteed market.. 10 &#8211; 40 million more customers depending on the data you use.  </p>
<p>That is BILLIONS of new dollars and if the rest of the world is any example of what happens when you have a universal health care strategy here is what you get.</p>
<p>1. The people live longer<br />
2.  Cost is cheaper per person<br />
3. and in all but a few countries they still have a private healthcare system working with the public system.</p>
<p>In some nations private health care steps in and tries to build on what is missing in the public run system.  Stupid business persons will die off in the new market smart ones will adapt.</p>
<p>To the reality.</p>
<p>Your &#8220;Death Panel&#8221; you are says is so great.. the system that exists today with the private system you want to protect today.  If you change the term to a life panel (a panel that is measure by how long you or a society lives) your panel is the 50th worst life panel in the world.. as a death panel.. </p>
<p>in short the death panel you PROTECT FOR PRIVATE COMPANIES KILLS YOU FASTER than in 50 othr nations.<br />
<a href="https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2102rank.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2102rank.html</a></p>
<p>USA number 50 </p>
<p>1  	Macau<br />
84.36</p>
<p>2009 est.<br />
2 	Andorra<br />
82.51</p>
<p>2009 est.<br />
3 	Japan<br />
82.12</p>
<p>2009 est.<br />
4 	Singapore<br />
81.98</p>
<p>2009 est.<br />
5 	San Marino<br />
81.97</p>
<p>2009 est.<br />
6 	Hong Kong<br />
81.86</p>
<p>2009 est.<br />
7 	Australia<br />
81.63</p>
<p>2009 est.<br />
8 	Canada<br />
81.23</p>
<p>2009 est.<br />
9 	France<br />
80.98</p>
<p>2009 est.<br />
10 	Sweden<br />
80.86</p>
<p>2009 est.<br />
11 	Switzerland<br />
80.85</p>
<p>2009 est.<br />
12 	Guernsey<br />
80.77</p>
<p>2009 est.<br />
13 	Israel<br />
80.73</p>
<p>2009 est.<br />
14 	Iceland<br />
80.67</p>
<p>2009 est.<br />
15 	Anguilla<br />
80.65</p>
<p>2009 est.<br />
16 	Cayman Islands<br />
80.44</p>
<p>2009 est.<br />
17 	Bermuda<br />
80.43</p>
<p>2009 est.<br />
18 	New Zealand<br />
80.36</p>
<p>2009 est.<br />
19 	Italy<br />
80.20</p>
<p>2009 est.<br />
20 	Gibraltar<br />
80.19</p>
<p>2009 est.<br />
21 	Monaco<br />
80.09</p>
<p>2009 est.<br />
22 	Liechtenstein<br />
80.06</p>
<p>2009 est.<br />
23 	Spain<br />
80.05</p>
<p>2009 est.<br />
24 	Norway<br />
79.95</p>
<p>2009 est.<br />
25 	Jersey<br />
79.75</p>
<p>2009 est.<br />
26 	Greece<br />
79.66</p>
<p>2009 est.<br />
27 	Austria<br />
79.50</p>
<p>2009 est.<br />
28 	Faroe Islands<br />
79.44</p>
<p>2009 est.<br />
29 	Malta<br />
79.44</p>
<p>2009 est.<br />
30 	Netherlands<br />
79.40</p>
<p>2009 est.<br />
31 	Luxembourg<br />
79.33</p>
<p>2009 est.<br />
32 	Germany<br />
79.26</p>
<p>2009 est.<br />
33 	Belgium<br />
79.22</p>
<p>2009 est.<br />
34 	Saint Pierre and Miquelon<br />
79.07</p>
<p>2009 est.<br />
35 	Virgin Islands<br />
79.05</p>
<p>2009 est.<br />
36 	United Kingdom<br />
79.01</p>
<p>2009 est.<br />
37 	Finland<br />
78.97</p>
<p>2009 est.<br />
38 	Jordan<br />
78.87</p>
<p>2009 est.<br />
39 	Isle of Man<br />
78.82</p>
<p>2009 est.<br />
40 	Korea, South<br />
78.72</p>
<p>2009 est.<br />
41 	European Union<br />
78.67</p>
<p>2009 est.<br />
42 	Puerto Rico<br />
78.53</p>
<p>2009 est.<br />
43 	Bosnia and Herzegovina<br />
78.50</p>
<p>2009 est.<br />
44 	Saint Helena<br />
78.44</p>
<p>2009 est.<br />
45 	Cyprus<br />
78.33</p>
<p>2009 est.<br />
46 	Denmark<br />
78.30</p>
<p>2009 est.<br />
47 	Ireland<br />
78.24</p>
<p>2009 est.<br />
48 	Portugal<br />
78.21</p>
<p>2009 est.<br />
49 	Wallis and Futuna<br />
78.20</p>
<p>2009 est.<br />
50 	United States<br />
78.11</p>
<p>2009 est.</p>
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		<title>By: bradweiser</title>
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		<dc:creator>bradweiser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 22:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps Rep. Wilson should have thrown his shoes at the President. 
The fringe media loved it last time that happened.  

The timing of his utterance may have been innappropriate,  but the substance was accurate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps Rep. Wilson should have thrown his shoes at the President.<br />
The fringe media loved it last time that happened.  </p>
<p>The timing of his utterance may have been innappropriate,  but the substance was accurate.</p>
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		<title>By: jrow</title>
		<link>http://www.the912project.com/2009/09/16/when-politicians-yell-fire/comment-page-1/#comment-480359</link>
		<dc:creator>jrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 20:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THANK YOU Gran623! 

 I too am sick to death of hearing about this &quot;Black&quot; President this &quot;African American&quot; President.  He had a WHITE Mother.  He is the First BI-RACIAL President.  Why does the Democratic Party keep enabling this race card that is being played?   And why does the Media continue to feed into it?   A little &quot;Wag the Tail&quot; or &quot;Shame and Blame&quot;, so we won&#039;t see the Big Government take over that is happening right before our eyes.   

And THANK YOU Glenn Beck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THANK YOU Gran623! </p>
<p> I too am sick to death of hearing about this &#8220;Black&#8221; President this &#8220;African American&#8221; President.  He had a WHITE Mother.  He is the First BI-RACIAL President.  Why does the Democratic Party keep enabling this race card that is being played?   And why does the Media continue to feed into it?   A little &#8220;Wag the Tail&#8221; or &#8220;Shame and Blame&#8221;, so we won&#8217;t see the Big Government take over that is happening right before our eyes.   </p>
<p>And THANK YOU Glenn Beck!</p>
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		<title>By: jcs</title>
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		<dc:creator>jcs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 20:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>00, I&#039;ll pass on your comment justifying yelling &quot;you lie&quot; at the President.   Maybe they&#039;ll post my comment on that eventually.

But your comment on insurance is worth responding to.   Your insurance company already makes decisions about your healthcare including what doctor you can see and what treatments are covered.   They have a panel of accountants that decide how to maximize company profits.  And the simple truth is, that every dollar they pay to your doctor is a dollar directly off their bottom line.   Pure capitalism and you&#039;re on the wrong end.  It&#039;s nothing personal, the insurance companies are simply maximizing profits whenever they can find a way to refuse claims or drop expensive clients altogether.   

And unlike an insurance company,  there is no panel that determines what treatments you PERSONALLY get.  &quot;You lie!&quot; to quote Joe Wilson.   You&#039;d need a lot more than &quot;a panel&quot; to do that for every insured American.  But let&#039;s hope you or your family never get anything serious, or your insurance will be looking quite personally at your claims, and may start looking for reasons to drop you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>00, I&#8217;ll pass on your comment justifying yelling &#8220;you lie&#8221; at the President.   Maybe they&#8217;ll post my comment on that eventually.</p>
<p>But your comment on insurance is worth responding to.   Your insurance company already makes decisions about your healthcare including what doctor you can see and what treatments are covered.   They have a panel of accountants that decide how to maximize company profits.  And the simple truth is, that every dollar they pay to your doctor is a dollar directly off their bottom line.   Pure capitalism and you&#8217;re on the wrong end.  It&#8217;s nothing personal, the insurance companies are simply maximizing profits whenever they can find a way to refuse claims or drop expensive clients altogether.   </p>
<p>And unlike an insurance company,  there is no panel that determines what treatments you PERSONALLY get.  &#8220;You lie!&#8221; to quote Joe Wilson.   You&#8217;d need a lot more than &#8220;a panel&#8221; to do that for every insured American.  But let&#8217;s hope you or your family never get anything serious, or your insurance will be looking quite personally at your claims, and may start looking for reasons to drop you.</p>
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		<title>By: Katherine frm Tx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katherine frm Tx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 19:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im no racist just for speaking my mind .  German, Irish, a splash of American Indian with a touch of Scottish/English tossed in. That me, My husband is 1/2Irish +1/2hispanic. My grand babies, the loves of my life, are from a Mexican National young man and my daughter, That makes them Hispanic, German, Irish, American Indian, Scottish/English Angels. It&#039;s all just geography. We are Americans. Period. Many people want to just see themselves by their color. Is that all we area drop of pigmentation under the skin? Fine Obama is our 1st Black President . No offense but so what.  His color is of no interest to the financial, political, emotional, or spiritual well being of my family  It&#039;s ones actions not ones color that makes you agree or disagree with how this administration is running our country. It&#039;s ones merits only that  he should and is being judged by. Just because I fundamentally and completely disagree with our current administration path for America, some in our country want to dismiss my views as racist.  All I can say to these people is,&quot;give it up&quot; It&#039;ll not change my opposition of this administrations policies just by calling me a racists, All it is doing is causing racial tension where there should be none. Are people so afraid to let this administration stand alone on its actions that we must try to make villains out of all Americans who disagree with the President? Washington needs to stop this game and get back to work on what&#039;s broken in America cause there is a lot wrong right now.  Health care, unemployment, cap n trade, acorn, taxation issues, true financial irresponsiblities in government: these are the problems for this country they need to focus on not if one person go so upset that they spoke out of turn to the president one time in their career.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im no racist just for speaking my mind .  German, Irish, a splash of American Indian with a touch of Scottish/English tossed in. That me, My husband is 1/2Irish +1/2hispanic. My grand babies, the loves of my life, are from a Mexican National young man and my daughter, That makes them Hispanic, German, Irish, American Indian, Scottish/English Angels. It&#8217;s all just geography. We are Americans. Period. Many people want to just see themselves by their color. Is that all we area drop of pigmentation under the skin? Fine Obama is our 1st Black President . No offense but so what.  His color is of no interest to the financial, political, emotional, or spiritual well being of my family  It&#8217;s ones actions not ones color that makes you agree or disagree with how this administration is running our country. It&#8217;s ones merits only that  he should and is being judged by. Just because I fundamentally and completely disagree with our current administration path for America, some in our country want to dismiss my views as racist.  All I can say to these people is,&#8221;give it up&#8221; It&#8217;ll not change my opposition of this administrations policies just by calling me a racists, All it is doing is causing racial tension where there should be none. Are people so afraid to let this administration stand alone on its actions that we must try to make villains out of all Americans who disagree with the President? Washington needs to stop this game and get back to work on what&#8217;s broken in America cause there is a lot wrong right now.  Health care, unemployment, cap n trade, acorn, taxation issues, true financial irresponsiblities in government: these are the problems for this country they need to focus on not if one person go so upset that they spoke out of turn to the president one time in their career.</p>
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