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	<title>Comments on: 7/3   Health Care Proposed Fines Are Also Called &#8220;Shared Responsibility Payments&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Morgue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morgue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 19:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m positive that abortions are going to be the one proceedure that will be fully funded by Obamacare. Grandma won&#039;t be able to get her cancer treatment, but rest assured that ol&#039; Stretch-mark Sally will be able to go to the abortion mill on the tax-payer&#039;s dime. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m positive that abortions are going to be the one proceedure that will be fully funded by Obamacare. Grandma won&#039;t be able to get her cancer treatment, but rest assured that ol&#039; Stretch-mark Sally will be able to go to the abortion mill on the tax-payer&#039;s dime.</p>
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		<title>By: Morgue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morgue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 19:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not everyone wants Social Security either. What&#039;s $400 a month going to do? I&#039;m sure that I can invest my money much better than the government, and retire a millionaire with an extra $400 a month to add to a mutual fund which averages about 12% over the long term. 
 
However, instead of that, I&#039;m forced to pay into the ponzi-shceme of Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and soon, Obamacare. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not everyone wants Social Security either. What&#039;s $400 a month going to do? I&#039;m sure that I can invest my money much better than the government, and retire a millionaire with an extra $400 a month to add to a mutual fund which averages about 12% over the long term. </p>
<p>However, instead of that, I&#039;m forced to pay into the ponzi-shceme of Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and soon, Obamacare.</p>
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		<title>By: Morgue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morgue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 19:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Silly rabbit, trix are for kids. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Silly rabbit, trix are for kids.</p>
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		<title>By: Morgue</title>
		<link>http://www.the912project.com/2009/07/02/73-health-care-proposed-fines-are-also-called-shared-responsibility-payments/comment-page-1/#comment-432897</link>
		<dc:creator>Morgue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 19:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a very simple formula: They use other people&#039;s money to buy votes. However, if these redistributionist programs were only had on the state level everyone with money would naturally leave those states. The answer is to push everythin &quot;up&quot; to the Federal level, so that no matter what state you run to, you&#039;re still supporting failure. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s a very simple formula: They use other people&#039;s money to buy votes. However, if these redistributionist programs were only had on the state level everyone with money would naturally leave those states. The answer is to push everythin &quot;up&quot; to the Federal level, so that no matter what state you run to, you&#039;re still supporting failure.</p>
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		<title>By: Morgue</title>
		<link>http://www.the912project.com/2009/07/02/73-health-care-proposed-fines-are-also-called-shared-responsibility-payments/comment-page-1/#comment-432889</link>
		<dc:creator>Morgue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 19:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IT&#039;S MADE OF PEOPLE! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IT&#039;S MADE OF PEOPLE!</p>
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		<title>By: Morgue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morgue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 19:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The people who will have their income &quot;given&quot; to others by the government aren&#039;t the ones who are in favor of these policies. This is a textbook case of people voting themselves other people&#039;s money, and politicans using the greed and envy of the public to amass their own power. 
 
&#8220;When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.&#8221; 
- Ben Franklin </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The people who will have their income &quot;given&quot; to others by the government aren&#039;t the ones who are in favor of these policies. This is a textbook case of people voting themselves other people&#039;s money, and politicans using the greed and envy of the public to amass their own power. </p>
<p>&ldquo;When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.&rdquo;<br />
- Ben Franklin</p>
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		<title>By: Kaczmarek3</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaczmarek3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 17:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DO NOT WANT. 
 
If you decide to opt out of health care coverage, no amount of fines in the world will change people&#039;s minds. This is just another tax wthout calling it a tax. Just like our new &quot;green&quot; Cap and Trade laws. Its all about shrinking people&#039;s perception of the amount of freedom they enjoy until you hit the panic level, then its too late. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DO NOT WANT. </p>
<p>If you decide to opt out of health care coverage, no amount of fines in the world will change people&#039;s minds. This is just another tax wthout calling it a tax. Just like our new &quot;green&quot; Cap and Trade laws. Its all about shrinking people&#039;s perception of the amount of freedom they enjoy until you hit the panic level, then its too late.</p>
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		<title>By: Karithecat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karithecat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 14:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of we the people have odd priorities; so wrapped up &quot;in the moment&quot; and emotionally charged are we yet having the government straight out tell us that we cannot provide for ourselves a home, career, health care and hometraining for our kids raises nary an eyebrow. In fact it brings cheers and tears. 
They have told us they have no faith in our abilities, potential or willingness to overcome any hardships in our path. Yet we have legally entered people from all over the world partaking of our schools, hospitals, real estate, jobs and reveling in the freedoms we take for granted (and seem eager to give up to the government) and achieving the American Dream.  
Since when do we the people need our generousity to be mandated? Since when do we the people eschew personal choice for government rule? Since when do we the people blindly accept failing current and proposed policies, on our dollar?  Many of us have a lot to answer for, falling for word play and marketing. Look beyond the commercial break, soundbite, headline, and take an interest in the actual substance, not the appearence. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of we the people have odd priorities; so wrapped up &quot;in the moment&quot; and emotionally charged are we yet having the government straight out tell us that we cannot provide for ourselves a home, career, health care and hometraining for our kids raises nary an eyebrow. In fact it brings cheers and tears.<br />
They have told us they have no faith in our abilities, potential or willingness to overcome any hardships in our path. Yet we have legally entered people from all over the world partaking of our schools, hospitals, real estate, jobs and reveling in the freedoms we take for granted (and seem eager to give up to the government) and achieving the American Dream.<br />
Since when do we the people need our generousity to be mandated? Since when do we the people eschew personal choice for government rule? Since when do we the people blindly accept failing current and proposed policies, on our dollar?  Many of us have a lot to answer for, falling for word play and marketing. Look beyond the commercial break, soundbite, headline, and take an interest in the actual substance, not the appearence.</p>
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		<title>By: Nomarxism</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nomarxism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 12:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True.  That is why executive order 11110 was never implemented.   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True.  That is why executive order 11110 was never implemented.</p>
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		<title>By: NancyNurse</title>
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		<dc:creator>NancyNurse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 09:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good medicine involves both the doctor, the therapists/nurses and most importantly the patient. Sometimes no treatment is better than treatment. I fell a few years ago and broke my upper arm and tore up my rotator cuff. At first, I couldn&#039;t move my arm at all. I had physical therapy for 6 weeks and they taught me how to exercise it, but I was in a lot of pain. The orthopedic doctor told me I not only needed the shoulder repaired, I needed the joint replaced (I have arthritis). Since I am no spring chicken and not athletic, don&#039;t really need to have an arm working 100% I opted to wait. I kept working with the range of motion and strengthening it and I can (most days) lift 10 pounds over my head and use the arm without too much restriction. It only hurts me now when it rains and I am overtired. But that was my decision.....if I were younger, needed and used my arms a great deal, I would probably have had that surgery. Sometimes the patient know best. And those decisions should not include a government bureaucrat, necessarily--especially if no government funds are being used.&lt;br /&gt;The temptation is great to over treat, especially the elderly. Some docs really go over-board with some patients and that leaves less money in the till for elderly patients who can get &#039;fixed&#039; fairly easily.&lt;br /&gt;My mom is nearly 80 and was complaining that she couldn&#039;t hear anymore. My sister wanted all of us kids to pitch in and buy her a set of hearing aides. I told my mom that she should get a good exam before she made up her mind, and consider some of the el cheapo models on the market today---those little amplifiers. She went into the audiologists office and he found the problem right away--both her ear canals were completely blocked with wax. They cleaned her ears and she was good to go. I was astounded that her family physician had not even bothered to look in her ears.&lt;br /&gt;All it takes is a little common sense. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good medicine involves both the doctor, the therapists/nurses and most importantly the patient. Sometimes no treatment is better than treatment. I fell a few years ago and broke my upper arm and tore up my rotator cuff. At first, I couldn&#039;t move my arm at all. I had physical therapy for 6 weeks and they taught me how to exercise it, but I was in a lot of pain. The orthopedic doctor told me I not only needed the shoulder repaired, I needed the joint replaced (I have arthritis). Since I am no spring chicken and not athletic, don&#039;t really need to have an arm working 100% I opted to wait. I kept working with the range of motion and strengthening it and I can (most days) lift 10 pounds over my head and use the arm without too much restriction. It only hurts me now when it rains and I am overtired. But that was my decision&#8230;..if I were younger, needed and used my arms a great deal, I would probably have had that surgery. Sometimes the patient know best. And those decisions should not include a government bureaucrat, necessarily&#8211;especially if no government funds are being used.<br />The temptation is great to over treat, especially the elderly. Some docs really go over-board with some patients and that leaves less money in the till for elderly patients who can get &#039;fixed&#039; fairly easily.<br />My mom is nearly 80 and was complaining that she couldn&#039;t hear anymore. My sister wanted all of us kids to pitch in and buy her a set of hearing aides. I told my mom that she should get a good exam before she made up her mind, and consider some of the el cheapo models on the market today&#8212;those little amplifiers. She went into the audiologists office and he found the problem right away&#8211;both her ear canals were completely blocked with wax. They cleaned her ears and she was good to go. I was astounded that her family physician had not even bothered to look in her ears.<br />All it takes is a little common sense.</p>
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