6/23 Dateline; Iran. The Revolution Is Approaching
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The History of Republican Support for Democracy in Iran all of this the work of Republican DWIGHT D. EISENHOWER 1953-1961
In 1953, the CIA and British intelligence orchestrated a coup d’etat that toppled the democratically elected government of Iran. The government of Mohammad Mossadegh. The aftershocks of the coup are still being felt.
The CIA and the British helped to undermine Mossadegh’s government through bribery, libel, and orchestrated riots. Agents posing as communists threatened religious leaders, while the US ambassador lied to the prime minister about alleged attacks on American nationals.
Some 300 people died in firefights in the streets of Tehran.
The crushing of Iran’s first democratic government ushered in more than two decades of dictatorship under the Shah,
This is a Dictatorship, pure, and simple. The so called government admits to voter fraud, with millions of votes more, in different areas that are over the total of voters. The poor people are fighting for their rights, and freedom.
Sounds like the people have started a nation wide strike, shuting down everything!
This voter fraud sounded just like an election last November in some country in the western hemisphere that I hear was just as corrupt!
Neda Soltan, Iran
One only need watch this video to know that we are all connected.
Could you pick her out of a crowd at baseball game?
While we piss our Freedom away others still struggle.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9J2bJeG_uF8
Well Mr. Obama probably doesn't have a problem at all with the Iranian elections, they're sqeaky clean by Chicago standards.
Lets hope good prevails in Iran, and Obama and his cronies aren't getting ideas from the mullahs for 2010 and 2012.
It's interesting to learn that Russia totally supports the election results in Iran and backs President Ahadinejad fully. If I'm not mistaken, hasn't Iran been purchasing their weapons from Russia? I think evil Vlad still runs Russia from the shadows.
I support the freedom to vote and speak out for citizens of any country and I also condemn the violence to the protesters in Iran. I support a vocal protest for the violence against the protesters from this country, but that's all. We have enough of our own internal problems in this country without becoming the world police. We have to remember that the people's ideologies from Iran are still different from the West's. Our country has never been on good terms with Iran as a whole.
Of course, the real question here is what does the US do about it? And I hear a lot of conversation about what the US says about it. I am going to differ and so that history has proven it does not matter what we say, just what we do. It has been since 1979 when the Ayotollah came to power in Iran. We have had multiple presidents since then with multiple approaches – everything from bowing and appeasement to threats and sword rattling. Yet the Ayotollah and friends could care less what we said. They say death to Israel and to US and they continue to make nuclear weapons. Talking with this guy seems as useless as talking to N, Korea or any dictator. They will only respond to fear or to something that can actually reduce their power. As for actions, my guess you could figure out possible actions as well as I can. But my point is either act or get real that nothing will change there.
H.R. 1388 was passed yesterday…interesting read.
Whether you are an Obama fan, or not, EVERYONE IN THE U. S. needs to know.. something happened. H.R. 1388 was passed yesterday, behind our backs.
You may want to read about it. It wasn't mentioned on the news………Just went by on the ticker tape at the bottom of the CNN screen.
Obama funds $20M in tax payer dollars to lmmigrate Hamas Refugees to the USA . This is the news that didn't make the headlines…
By executive order, President Barack Obama has ordered the expenditure of $20.3 million in "migration assistance" to the Palestinian refugees and"
conflict victims" in Gaza. The "presidential determination", which allows hundreds of thousands of Palestinians with ties to Hamas to resettle in the United States , was signed on January 27 and appeared in the Federal Register on February 4.
That is what we need, terrorist brought here. I know they will say they are just misplaced souls with no country. I say bull pukie. What is this government thniking?I didn't vote for tax money to be spent this way, come to think about it I didn't vote for any of the billions aready spent either. I guess that is taxation without representation. Its a good thing we are supporting Smith & Wesson. We will need the protection, sooner that we thought.
Have you done a fact check on these allegations. 1388 was passed a while ago. Is this a viral myth??
HR 1388 is actually the Edward Kennedy "Give Act" that passed a couple of months ago. I do recall hearing about Hamas funding but believe it is refugee assistance – but not immigration assistance to the USA. More smoke & mirrors?
I will research the Hamas funding but appreciate info if others have more at hand.
further to earlier post, regarding Hamas. Bush apparently provided similar funding to UN for refugee assistance and we can only hope that the UN doesn't release it to the terrorists!
http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_obama_p...
further to earlier post, regarding Hamas. Bush apparently provided similar funding to UN for refugee assistance and we can only hope that the UN doesn't release it to the terrorists!
http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_obama_p...
Oh we have given 900 million to Hamas. That is a well known fact. Back several months ago. Sure Bush did help Palestine also but it has not always been under the control of terrorists. Any which way, I only care about today and it is WRONG!!!!!!!! From this day foreward it would be great if as a country we could get behind "good" and kick ass of "evil." At least stop throwing money around.
Reagan was not always right, but by Jiminy, he was a man! He didn't mince words, didn't pull punches….where is our next Reagan? He was condemned for being an "actor"…but look at who's on stage now….Bozo.
We have some real spoilers for anyone that even looks promising to Republicans. Look at the attacks on Palin & family. Now it seems there're after Sanford. A govenor can't leave for a few days? Articles have said that lt. govenor Bauer is at odds with Sanford and is tight with a senator that was attacking the govenor too.
Did you know our major banks are operating under Sharia law ? Check it out , we are now basically sending money to Hamas through our Banks. Another one of Obama's under the radar projects . Better get on it Glenn and report the deception of the Anti-president Obama . Just trying to keep people informed .
Do you have anything to back that? A link or something?
Are you talking about sharia compliant funds????? That is completely different than banks operating under sharia law. You know that, don't you?
A sharia-compliant fund may not invest in businesses that, among other things: manufacture, sell or offer alcohol or pork; invest in, or are, gambling establishments; provide interest-based financial services; invest in, or are, nightclubs, or are involved in pornography or adult-orientated material.
Is THAT what you are talking about??????
I, TOO, AM ASHAMED AND EMBARASSED AT BEING 'REPRESENTED' BY OBUMMER. I HAVE NEVER, EVER FELT THIS WAY ABOUT A PRESIDENT BEFORE (IM 64 YEARS OLD) AND I FIND IT VERY UNSETTLING.
Like Obama, they are probably waiting for their scripts.
I'm actually ashamed of being represented like this. I mean I was a little taken back, confused, and awkward when the President started apologizing on behalf of a bunch of Americans who did not feel that sentiment at all in any form or way and are proud of their history.
but this …
This "sit and watch" mentality based on concern of their nuclear program. I thought the Preseident was supposed to be some big thinker with all these thinking peope around him. HEY DUMBA$$!!!! TO THE WINNER GOES THE SPOILS!!!! You sit back and deal, you get what you are dealt. You join in and play the game, you might end up with a new partner. It makes no sense unless he has personal stake in the corruption, which … wouldn't surprise me.
Obama has become a world class embarrassment in less than six months
God bless and help those brave people. Even if our president won't say it, I am proud of these people for sticking to their principles. I am so very sorry for the loss of lives.
Amen, pslwd.
Indeed – Well Said!
I was watching yesterday morning and it gave me chills to see those people standing up for what they want. They've had enough. Watch and learn America.
Oh Dear. Iran is NOT Another Bush boo boo inherited by the Savior Complex Obama? I disagree. All that evil freedom and democracy stuff in Iraq and Afganistan promoted by Bush is responsible for the Iranian people thinking it's a good idea and being beaten, arrested and murdered. Where ,oh, where is Sean Penn and the Holy Hollywood Apostles on this travesty of human rights?
Dateline: America. The Revolution Is Approaching. If Obama keeps ignoring the American people, our Country might look very simular to Tehran.
Yes, I have thought this myself.
We need to stop BHO before we become a 3rd worl country…
Watching Obama's response over the last week to the events in Iran reinforces for me that on foreign affairs his only concern is to get the rock-star adulation that he is so addicted to. Now that he is faced with a real decision requiring leadership, all he can do is straddle the fence and support the winner once the outcome is known. While I strongly believe that this is the Iranian's peoples' fight and not ours, it is rightfully in our best interest to stand solidly for freedom. His administration is not (currently) interested in international "change", they are leaving that to ACORN for the time being. His timid response tells volumes about his agenda. This approach has been common among Democratic presidents since Lyndon Johnson's abysmal mismanagement of the Vietnam war. They got stage fright 45 years ago and have been afraid ever since to go back on stage. Many Democrats seem to believe that if they ignore international problems the problem will go away. It was also very insulting to hear a State Dept. staffer yesterday when answering a question about BHO's response to Iran say that the US tried isolation for 8 years and it hasn't worked, and now we are going in a new direction. The implication was to again blame Bush and suggest that he have never tried diplomacy with the mullahs and Admadinejad during his tenure. A little bit of honesty here would go a long way; if Obama would stop demonizing Bush and instead admit that the problem is not the US but regimes that are so hard-line, and if they want to join the community of nations they need to start treating their own citizens better. It would be nice if Obama would demonstrate presidential leadership qualities and cease playing the "poor-me, it's all Bush's fault" game but I'm not holding my breath.
TJ, good post. I was taught that indecision is also a decision, and that 'sitting on the fence' usually nets one nothing but a sore crotch. The reason he is waiting for a more decisive comment (if it is ever to come out of his mouth) is because he has decided to negotiate, and if any comment of his offends the side that turns out to be the 'winner,' it will make his precious negotiations nearly impossible. He is like a spoiled kid who will connive and lie to get what s/he wants.
Thanks. I'll have to remember the "sore crotch" comment-lol.
This only re-enforces the fact that you can have great speech writers (the 'peace and harmony' speech to the Muslim world in Cairo) and a flawless delivery (totus) and yet be rendered meaningless….because of the lack of personal conviction….you are disappointing, Mr President, ACTIONS always speak louder than words.
Outrage? Sure, he used the word once, but then proceeded to say this was btwn the Iranian govt and it's people to work out. He used the word "debate" to describe what was occuring in Teheran and even such a strong word as "dissent". He cited "intl norms" a number of times. What he also clearly stated that to date, nothing the oppressive regime has done would rule out a face to face meeting with a president who's legitimacy is at least questionable, if not fraudulent. He further equivocated by saying we don't know what happened as there were no observers. It seems to me that the lack of observers has been more than compensated by the voters reaction to the results.
Maybe a revolution is coming to Iran, but I'm not holding my breath. For our president to not loudly condemn the Iranian govts actions, to ignore it's citizens on the issue of a legitimate election, to kill it's citizens in what appears to be random acts of terror, is in effect telling the Iranian govt that we are supporting them, and not the protestors.
Oh LOOK OBAMA is now Outraged? from mealy mouthed to outraged? the same crap is happening, What a freakin joke! He must be trying to improve his poll numbers. The truth is all Obama cares about is Healthcare 'The Holy Grail' of the liberals. He has no clue what he is doing, If i could speak I coulda pulled out these tired old liberal directives and done what he has done. I fear we have a really bad thing coming (foreign policy wise) and it wont be good. thanks America for electing a green behind the ears idiot as president what was it that Nevile Chamberlain said before WWII peace in our times….our poor kids will have to clean up this mess.
Notice how Obama showed very little emotion about Iran. He really could care less, but he's going with what the polls are showing him he should do. He IS all about being a rock star and having adulation. Once he's our dictator, we're going to have to ADORE him 24 hours a day or he's going to make us love him the HARD way. Green behind the ears is not a good enough excuse….Obama truly does not care for people who are suffering. He's on the side of the torturers.
Its all about policy with this guy, don't adjust course steady as she goes….he is like the captain of the Titanic.
Hey Barack there is a Iceburg ahead, Barack responds, no that is not a iceburg that is just republican naysayers and we should not be deterred by the politics of destruction!..pride goith before a fall.
Yes, our kids will have to clean up this mess….If there is anything left to clean up…
Yes, our kids will have to clean up this mess….If there is anything left to clean up…
Good point will there be anything left is a good Question
With any luck, our next President will be a Reaganesque leader….Reagan cleaned out Carter's mess, so we need a great leader who can clean up the HUGE mess Obama is causing. I don't see any Reaganesque leaders right now, but I have hope…..
(webmaster – I posted this by mistake on another page-prefer to have it here) We (912'ers) could learn something from the protestors in Iran. Even with a repressive state-controlled media, they still figured out ways to let the rest of the world know what's really going on through the use of Twitter, Youtube & Facebook. I don't know if anyone has formally suggested this (if so I'm not trying to steal your thunder) but the upcoming tea parties could use the same tactic. Since the MSM has already shown that they won't cover the tea parties, each individual protest should post videos of their tea party on the above internet sites. They should have an identifier sentence giving the specific tea party location to show how widespread the protests are. It'd also be helpful if the organizers had pre-positioned cameras recording the protest from overhead. That one Iranian video yesterday that was apparently shot from the 2nd or 3rd floor window of a building showing the police beating a couple of protestors was very powerful. The internet can be a very useful tool if managed properly. According to the tea party link on the 912 page, it looks like there will be literally hundreds of tea parties. That could be a LOT of videos to show Washington and the rest of the sheeple.
I also don't know if anyone else has already suggested this or not, but I think it's a great idea. We can sort of take the power away from the networks this way. If Iranians can do it, given their tenuous circumstances, we can easily do it. Also, given that liberals/progressives might want to start violence during the Tea Parties and blame it on us, it would be great to have cameras positioned everywhere to keep people "honest". I think your ideas are good ones. Thanks for the suggestions.
it will soon read:
Dateline; AMERICA. The Revolution Is Approaching
GODSPEED TO THE "PEOPLE" OF IRAN!
DON'T LET THEM SILENCE YOU!
Obama Hussein's top three responses when questioned about Iran:
1) It wouldn't be happening if Iran had universal health care…
2) It wouldn't be happening if it weren't for global climate change….
3) It is all the fault of the previous American Administration….
He also thinks it wouldn't be happening if there was a One World Government with him as the Supreme Dictator. He'd have sliced and diced the protesters before they knew what hit them. Notice how without emotion he appears when talking about the murdered protesters.
He has more emotion talking about ice-cream. So is the One World Government why ACORN is now going world wide? By the way, who pays for that?
Is anyone else watching this idiot dodging questions????? He actually called on the Huffington Post (I'm sure thinking they would not put him on the spot)…and he didn't even answer the question. He is unbelievable. WORTHLESS!
Obama is a talking head without any substance. He says what he thinks people want to hear, without ANY intent of doing what he says. He is a compulsive liar such as the world has never seen before. And that may be because of the Islam right to lie in order to further the muslim cause. Face it, when Obama's lips are moving, he's lying!
HoPo is not a news organization. That would be like calling on Michael Savage at a Press Club event.
I like the sound of Michael Savage being called on at a Press Club Event. Savage would get straight to the point without all the BS. He could balance out all the Obama-loving news media that we are surrounded by.
Indecision in your own personal life does not breed much respect for other people.
Indecision in a political leader is suicide for the nation in which they "lead". President Obama's lack of fortitude when it comes to dictatorships or regimes which his political ideology meshes (which is 180 from what most Americans believe) is becoming part and parcel of our standing in the world. We truly are becoming a paper tiger, and we are going to be thrown into the shredder before long. This nation MUST change course, and soon, before all of us on this planet suffer. The US has stood for freedom since it's inception, and this current government is going to be the arbiter of some VERY troubling days ahead, if we don't reverse course.
The course is slowly changing as citizens and even some of the media are realizing that Obama is full of HOT air. The more he talks, the more what he says is not adding up. And because Obama loves to be in the public eye, he's showing more and more people that he's inept and weak. I'm voting Obama as the worst President in the history of our country.
If he surpasses Jimmy Carter or William Henry Harrison, that will be a feat…
When Mao said that to Stalin, Stalin replied "the tiger has nuclear teeth".
So, the LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD is finding it difficult to muster support for Iranians fighting for freedom. The excuses the White House uses are numerous but I'm sure in the next few minutes – when he makes his daily strut in front of the cameras – he will be more supportive…only because if he is not…he will prove himself to be the weakling he is.
…LOL! STILL NO DIRECT SUPPORT FOR THE IRANIAN PEOPLE. This TOTUS is unbelievable. Worthless words as usual trying to play both sides.
You can't support something you're against. Obama loves the dictator and hates the innocent minions. I think he also realizes that he's facing the same uprising if he doesn't stop treading on us.
Breaking news It has been found that acorn international was involved in the counting of votes in Iran……..OK folks I just fabricated this just as the Iranian government claims there was no fraud.
Acorn is now called COI…..like changing their name will trick us. They must think we're pretty stupid……
Well,
Here's a post that's gonna' get me a few down-points…. It doesn't matter, I suppose. I just don't think we should be all starry-eyed about the Iranian protests.
I have to be honest. I still have my doubts about the protesters definitions of "Democracy" and "Freedom". I'm concerned that they would re-install yet another Jew-killing despot, theocratic or otherwise.
Yet, I also see this as a unique and valuable opportunity. I'm NOT one to defend the current administration, but I would hope that the intelligence community has managed to convince him to keep (himself and especially Joe Biden) quiet while they (C.I.A.) plant a few seeds.
Here's the part that strikes me as a bit humorous:
POTUS is waiting to see who wins the fight because he still has plans on sitting down with somebody and he doesn't want to fould his chances at "diplomacy". The problem is, as I've mentioned before, whomever you go to bed with tonight, you have to wake up to in the morning. Carter put us in bed with Iraq and we got caught up in it's disease. Iran (it's leadership) is just as filthy and objectionable, if not more so. Given their stated objectives (you know, little things like the annihilation or Israel, the eradication of the Jews, destruction of the West….) we should have no plans whatsoever on diplomatic processes with the current regime. No deals, no negotiations, no compromises, and no "sanctions" could ever turn them into benevolent leaders.
So, this could be an exploitable opportunity to destabilize the current Iranian order, perhaps even get a "kinder, gentler" despot into power. Or, maybe, just maybe, we can let the protesters stew a little. Give them enough help and motivation to keep them going, keep them demonstrating and foment a little more discontent. Let them actually ponder what benevolent self-rule is all about. Then, when they actually start making noises about living in peace with their neighbors (all of them, not just the Islamic ones), then and only then we should unapologetically take sides, support (if not invent) a REAL revolution, put someone we can work with in place, or even find one in the crowd to groom for it in the future, and begin the generation-long military occupation that it will require to keep the peace while the hard-liners die off.
In for a penny, in for a pound. It's all or nothing.
How many Americans do you think are currently willing to allocate troops and equipment to Iran for even the next 5 years, much less the actual amount of time it will take to "SOLVE" that problem? (Plan on a true generation of time)
The only other viable option, without completely alienating the present leadership (which I have no problem with, but POTUS seems to) is a covert action from within the populace. Even though that sort of thing hasn't historically worked in the Arab Nations, I can only HOPE that's what's happening now. Maybe it's worth a shot….
I can't stand Obama's politics and policies, but maybe keeping his mouth shut is the smart thing to do right now. I frankly wish he'd do that more often.
-Al
While I don’t agree with everything you have to say here, I appreciate the thoughtful reasoning of your argument.
Iran belongs to the Iranians, so whether they would choose another leader with hateful ambitions, or not, it would be THEIR choice, and that’s the point.
The struggle for freedom will not be a perfect one, but there is great value in the struggle itself, even if the outcome is abject failure.
That’s what I support, and what I believe our president and our country must support.
I don’t want to fight their revolution for them, our weapons, guys etc. need to be fighting our fight, not theirs.
Besides, the nature of freedom is that it cannot be given. This is the mistake we made in Iraq. And the result has been that while we WON, having succeeded in nearly everything we set out to do, we never won the “hearts and minds” of the people either here or there. The freedom in Iraq is not IN the people, it is simply AROUND them, which is how we also lost . . .
We cannot make the Iranians free. By the Grace of God, they ARE free, as all people are free. They must make the courageous choice to be what they are.
A few times now I have seen newscasters point out that many of the protestors signs are in English. This is their way of asking for our help, and support. Not by military means, but simply with words. If there is anything that the fight over gay marriage taught me, it is the power of words!
I believe that our president needs to let the people of Iran know that we support freedom everywhere for everyone no matter what the color, creed or religion of those seeking it. America need not bear the weight of any certain people, government, ideology or movement if we stand for a freedom that extends over all.
And we should.
I think that without knowing it, you've made my point.
In your own words, "if we stand for a freedom that extends over all. And we should. "
That is a sentiment that I whole-heartedly share and support. If, however, a society is in revolution simply to deny others such freedom, it is something we should not support. The Communist revolution of Russia was about an illusion of freedom. Supporting communism is the antithesis of freedom, even though one could consider it a revolution.
Any society or group or government that would act unjustly against others must be considered off-limits for American assistance. Many times in the past, Iraq is but one example, this Country has gotten deeply involved in filthy governments for expedient reasons. Until I know that those who are protesting are doing so for true freedom, and a benevolent self-rule, I can't support them. They are on their own.
If it turned out that they do, in fact, wish to change the historical stance of their culture and benevolently govern themselves, bringing true freedom to the region, I would certainly support them with far more than words…. FAR more…… But this would be a RADICAL DEPARTURE from the aforementioned historical positions and deeds.
The "FREEDOM" to knowingly and willingly elect a murderous tyrant, is NOT a "FREEDOM" I will support…. Ever!
We all know what they're protesting against, but I need to know more about what they are protesting FOR.
There seems to be a big push for concealable FLASH-storage USB cameras. Quite a few have found their way into the hands of the protesters.
This is probably a very good thing. Although, from what I understand, it's only the news media who has smuggled the devices in and disseminates them, the psychological aspect of those images going world-wide could make things easier for the U.S.
Even the U.N. would be affected by the images. I wonder what sanctions will be instituted against the regime as a result of "world-opinion".
I really have a lot of mixed emotions about this situation….. From a strictly practical sense, we can use this unrest. If these people are truly interested in benevolent freedom and self-rule, we should help them with much more than just words. (Words are easy to use, especially when one knows one won't have to back them up).
If they're not ultimately interested in that benevolent form of behavior, then maybe whatever regime is left will be weakened enough to "reason" with.
Now that we know the current tyrants are all ticked off about cameras, maybe we should air-drop a few thousand of those little cameras.
For that matter, maybe we should re-start manufacturing FP-45s and drop a few thousand of those to the crowds.
I really don't know about this….. I just don't know…..
… I WANT to believe…….
The real problem is that Obama is not in favor of the protesters. He favors the dictator. Therefore, who is going to use the unrest to help make changes for the downtrodden Iranian people? Obama won't do it- he is NOT a Reagan; he's the antithesis of Reagan. Too bad there's absolutely no one left in our government who has Reagan's gifts and beliefs. The poor Iranians are doing this at the worst possible time with the worst possible President in Office in the US.
There are DEFINITELY no Regans left in our hierarchy.
I don't really see any on the horizon either.
His indecision…..hmmmm….Remember his little 'citizen of the world speech' in Berlin last summer? The one McCain shamed him into? BH0 said then that we must 'sieze the moment' to effect freedom where it does not exist, or something like that, but that is the general idea. He couldn't 'sieze a moment' if it was covered with super-glue and landed on his lap!
I think that Obama actually believes his own BS.I think he believes that the mere utterances from his blessed mouth would be enough to change everyone's mind and get them to do his bidding. With that in mind, I think he's waiting to see how this all plays out so he can be on the "right side" and look like the leader he thinks he is and wants us all to think he is. He is the perfect example of a narcissist. In his tiny mind, if he didn't think it or say it, it's not worth worrying about. What a putz!
I think that Obama actually believes his own BS.I think he believes that the mere utterances from his blessed mouth would be enough to change everyones mind and get them to do his bidding. With that in mind, I think he's waiting to see how this all plays out so he can be on the "right side" and look like the leader he thinks he is and wants us all to think he is. He is the perfect example of a narcissist. In his tiny mind, if he didn't think it or say it, it's not worth worrying about. What a putz!
Is this a window into our future? What are you doing to make sure it's not? That's my concerns and a country should be judged by how it treats it's own people and we should align ourselves with countries of like minds. We seam to be coddling countries that give their citizens few rights and that is a shame. Do you think that allowing this country to become Iran, We will be a better model for the world. They are trying to be like us, why? Because we had the best system of government in the world and these idiots are trying to make us like them. Give me a break. I want the Iranians to have freedom but I am more worried about our freedoms right now. From this July 4th on, Freedom must ring out from every corner of the United States or this date will become just another day under tyrany. I'm praying for us all and I know we will succeed.
July 4th is coming quickly and we need to focus on getting our own nation's attention. We are losing our freedoms as we watch another country try to GET some freedom. We need to protect what we have before we're in Iran's position.
what am i doing? the only thing i can think of — sending dozens and dozens and dozens of postcards and emails to ALL democratic senators, Obummer, Pelosi, Frank,etc.
Ive been doing so for FIVE months!
Now you can say 'that wont do any good' and it wont if I'm the only one doing it BUT IF EVERYONE WHO COMES TO THIS SITE AND IS PISSED did the same — those sob's would start thinking about their futures.
i attended an april 15th tea party and plan to attend one on july 4th but we have to keep bitching at THE ONES WHO NEED TO HEAR IT in between tea parties!!
I had tolaugh…he was saying their government isn't listening to the people…..then what does that say about our own? We voted down amnesty, what 3 different times, and they are at it again! We've been at health care and been voted down how many times before…..and here we go again. We said NO to everything they have done….and they didn't listen and FAILED….and this dip-wad acts like he has a point? YOHOO!!!!!!!! Here WEare!!!!!!! Gonna listen to us? Or ride us off as nut jobs?
They admit voting fraud. They won't simply hold the election again with checks to insure its legitimacy. The people stand up, and say this isn't right. The government there kills innocent women and men for voicing the very thing that the government admits took place. They blame everyone else for the revolution they are staring down the barrel of even as they exasperate the conditions that would spawn revolution. It makes me wonder if they want to push this just so they can kill these people off, and have less opposition going forward. At this point, nothing else makes sense because either guy that wins the election is and always would have been under the thumb of the Ayatollah. None of this had to happen, and the government seems bent on delegitimizing itself. They gain nothing by any of this unless they saw an end coming to their government structure and overall control regardless.
I have not heard much out of Iran today. It does make me fear for the Irian people. BHO is going to speak at noon today and as usual I will be watching something else. I think I programed Law and Order for the12 noon slot. This way I can keep my good mood for the rest of the day. I am looking for info on Iran so I will check Fox news after BHO finishes.
I expected info about the strike. Nothing. Not even news that it didn't happen. Seems wierd to me too.
Iran is about to implode and Obama refuses, publicly where it counts, to be the straw that broke the camels back.
He sounds like the left did when Reagan confronted Poland, shush, we want to talk to them and if you say that you might make the Soviets mad. Reagan clearly proved it's better to let you beliefs be known. He LED us out the Vietnam mindset and showed it's OK to be a Proud American and you that don't have to accept third world dictators, just ask Qadafi.
Don't worry Barak is doing everything in his power to stop it….Ya know…SILENCE IS GOLDEN
You would not want to tick off their Mullah
We all need to pray for the Iranian people. Free and fair elections are the first step to real change in that country. We may not like the man who ultimately rules there but the people are understanding their power. The more they understand their power, the more likely it is that things will change for real, long term.
Amazing how this story involves mostly the British and there is no real mention of the U.S. as to who is to blame for the unrest. How ironic is this the British are being seen as the uplifter of democracy in Iran when I thought the U.S. was the beacon of freedom in the world. Thank You Mr. Obama for achieving your goal of panty-waist wimps in the world community. That's right we don't want to "meddle" in other countries affairs when it comes to unjust action by a country that wants to wipe Isreal off the map.
Unless the Mullahs are taken out Iran will be forever this way when it comes to democratic elections. The mullahs choose who will be the winner and just to make a point the other guy Musouvi isn't some savior for democracy in any way either. Bottom line the mullahs were happy with the job Amadinijad was doing and decided to give him another 4 years!
barry (bho) will continue to be passive, as if sitting on the sidelines with a "wait and see" approach. Iran's issues are exposing barry for the weak kneed, not knowing, inexperienced, self appointed messiah. barry should be dealing with Iran directly. Take a position. Be a man………… not a mouse. The U.S. has always stood for freedom and basic human rights. It's not even a hard choice. But for bho……………… he does not want to offend his muslim brothers……………….. at our expense.
DO NOT GIVE UP MY FELLOW PATRIOTS. We are still blessed with the 1st Amendment. The Freedom of Speech & the Freedom to Peaceably Assemble. We………….. and others that think like us……………. are gaining momentum. It is working. bho is losing ground. His policies are rapidly being seen for what they truly are. SOCIALISM……… And an attempt at a government take over of all of our basic rights. The Dems are getting more and more vocal about his attack on the founding principles of this nation. Stay the course my friends.
IRAN SLAMS UN CHIEF
PROTESTERS 'WILL BE DEALT WITH'
Iranian authorities said they would teach an exemplary lesson to "rioters" held in the worst unrest since the birth of the Islamic Republic and pressed accusations that violence was being incited by Western powers.
http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSTRE5...
This experience in Iran for me is why we should be thanking our Founding Fathers for the 2nd Amendment. The only thing the Iranians can do is shout from the rooftops without fear (actually less fear then normal) of reprisals. Thomas Jefferson said it best with his quote "When the government fears the people there is liberty, when the people fear the government there is tyranny." The reason I bring this up is because we are going to see a very nasty crack down on the people of Iran, and since the Iranians don't have any weapons other then rocks and cell phones, it will not be pretty. They can make Iran lose face with the rest of the world, but that is about it. We will never invade Iran under this administration so the military option is completely off the table. The remaining bullets in our arsenal like clandestine, material, and diplomatic support are not going to be used either. The reason for this is because Obama believes the protests will fail and he doesn't want to alienate the Iranian leaders. I am afraid we are going to see another Tienanmen.
There will be a crackdown, but we will not 'see' it. Soon, the mullahs will carry out their threats of bloodshed, the "opposition" will quietly disappear and never be heard of again. Media communications will be tightly controlled and very little will get out about it.
And yes….thanks be to God for the second amendment of our Constitution. Let's pray that it will still be in place after all the fallout settles from our experiment in totalitarianism, otherwise known as the Administration of President Obama.
Absolutely! It is disturbing that he is more interested in placating the "leaders" in Iran than he is in supporting the people who are fighting for freedom in the streets. He is "waiting to see how this plays out"….WAITING TO SEE HOW THIS PLAYS OUT….while people are dying in the streets. Hedging his bets????? Ronald Reagan where are you????
If he thinks he can joke his way around this…he is sorely mistaken!
Washington better get ready because they are NEXT. The revolution is coming to them sooner than they think.
Just got done watching his press conference…WAITING TO SEE HOW THIS PLAYS OUT is getting old. Ever notice when he is most mad at a reporter asking a question? He will try to joke and grin. Today he grinned so hard I thought his smile was going to wrap around his ears!!! Oh he must have been very mad! The reporter, and I have no clue who it was just sat stone seroius. It was worth watching just for that.
Everyone, has the Inherent right to be free.
The French, Germans and the British have spoken loudly, criticizing Iran for their vicious attacks on the peaceful protestors.
Obama wants to sit on the fence , I will be watching closely what he says in his news conference 12:30 ET about the developments in Iran. Btw He is pushing Government Healthcare also.
"Sit on the fence" .. reminds me of the Post Turtle.
http://rantingsofmine.wordpress.com/2009/05/17/ob...
sickandtired, Good one, lol.
Pretty sad to think even the French and the Germans have spoken out more loudly than our president. SHEESH!
The fact that oblahamas does not support the protesters in iran is not at all surprising to me. Given the fact that he paid no attention to us either. He paid no attention to "freedom", or freedom of speech unless it worships him, and praises him. The fact that he didn't hear us the last time….only means we weren't loud enough. Perhaps we should learn by iran because they never gave up. I respect them for that. We should do the same, be positive, and stick to our values, and be a little louder. That way he'll have to listen.
He will be asking, What happened when he is invited to leave the Whitehouse in 2012.
We can send him an invitation written in gold, saying…..you're fired!! : )
Right on the money and yes, yes, buy some gold & silver as a … Just in case.
My guess is that he does not want the pro freedom team to win, because that might give freedom lovers here in the US ideas that could cause him grief. "Keep quiet all will be fine." But then again he is not calling the shots in this white house, I wounder who really is the puppet master. But we watch the leaks and movements are born. No longer can they hide the truth of it from us. For now.
Honestly… I hope the very best for the Iranians… I hope they have a Revolution….. But, I care about this
so much more FOR US… WE are in need of a Revolution, a Second Revolution… and, I'm sorry to say, but
whenever our focus, or our efforts, are on other things, it keeps us from accomplishing the things that we
need to make happen, right here AT HOME…
I mean no disrespect by this… but, I don't think the Iranian people would ever fight, in any way, to help
us regain our freedom…..
Obama doing something "Reganesque"? Nahhh… it'll never happen, although Mr. Obama certainly should voice his support for the protesters in Iran. America doesn't have to provide military support or even send in people or supplies to help with the situation. All that is needed is for the protesters in Iran to know that they have the support of the American people. Obama has made his position clear — he has no position (or backbone). We should look for alternate ways to let the Iranian protesters know that we support their cause. If anyone out there has the maens to contact one or more of the Iranians protesting for their rights, please let them know that we support them.
I hope history judges BH0 for his cowardly inaction harshly. He obviously does not care about freedom and justice.
I for one am very disappointed with the Presidents lack of support for the cause of freedom in Iran. Sean Hannity had a clip on last night from the Gipper and how he put pressure on Poland in 1981. Hey Mr. President, look back at the 1980's and see what worked. Then look back a little farther to the 70's and you will see what didn't work.
Excellent reply!
His response to the protests in Iran shows our president's true beliefs, in my opinion. He has invested in nurturing a relationship with the existing regime in Iran and if he would get the same rebuke from them that America has always gotten, he wouldn't have accomplished any more than any other president. In the meantime, he is trying to take the safe route and side with the group that he believes will ultimately prevail. He's an opportunist who wants to be on the winning side. Is it any surprise to those of us that have been paying attention that Obama believes in the power of the government to prevail in spite of its own people?
Wae,
I have to disagree with you. I don’t think Obama is taking a safe route, I think he’s taking a coward route. He is washing his hands off of what’s happening right now in Iran. My heart goes out to Iranians fighting for freedom and quite frankly I am disgusted to see that BO won’t stand behind them.
teleprompter told him to say great words in Cairo
paper statement tells him to say nothing
Wasn't that wonderful to see? It really frosts me when I hear lib commentators say BH0 is anything like Reagan!
BHO has been passive and timid with regard to these brave protesters who are seeking Freedom.
I wonder how he will respond in 11 days to the protesters in his own back yard?
The upcoming 'protest' here will be waved off like the last one was. But let's do it anyway for two reasons:
1. It feels good. And heaven knows, we all need 'therapy' these days.
2. The young, the ignorant, and the moderates who are disenfranchised might wake up in time to vote no to incumbents in 2010. It is always chic in America to be a 'rebel.'
You're right, Obama will probably ignore the upcoming protests, but he's not the only target!
My reasons for attending are:
1. Because I love the USA and I owe it to my countrymen and women who have made my freedom possible.
2. My principles, values and conscience require me to participate.
3. Future generations are depending on the action of the People to secure their future.
4. I'm young and hoping to set an example for my lost generation.
So even if Obama ignores us, I will still be counted as a face in the crowd.
One thing is for certain….protesters in his back yard means cameras will be there too. I'm sure someone would be covering the story on his famous BBQ!
coverage of any type of tea parties has not existed in the media since Memorial Day July 4th tea parties and marches are not being promoted in the media we need to some how have coverage of the many small tea parties on a weekly bases when no coverage from the media our efforts fall to the back burner in DC
I'm talking about the main media not local coverage which does not reach DC
Email all the media outlets, the more email tips they receive, the more likely someone will either relent, or someone who gives a crap will see it
Oh, I completely agree that he is showing cowardice! This is a perfect time for him to show leadership and to take a position against actual disenfranchisement. Maybe even put those "community organizer" skills to use and send a message to the Iranian voters so they know that they have the support of lovers of liberty around the world. His allegiance, however, lies with government in general, not with liberty.
"Safe", the way I used it was in relation to him wanting to be able to be the first to engage the Iranian regime in some sort of negotiations and talk the holocaust-denier out of his goal of wiping Israel off the map. In the real world, however, I don't see anything "safe" about cozying up to Ahmadinejad and the mullahs.
We can't completely know another's mind, but louder and more repeated calls for "death to the dictatorship" stands in my mind as a call for, well, something other than a dictatorship. A call for more freedom. Young Iran seems to be MUCH more freedom minded than even some people in our own country.
Maybe not gold. That may be the only thing worth anything when he is finished. LOL>
I hope you're right, but I remember vividly, a long time ago, a "freedom fighter" who literally made the statement (which was even recorded on a news reel); "Cuba will never see another dictator".
His name was Fidel Castro.
They have over 1000 years of history. I need more than words to believe that today is the day it all changes.
Sorry…. I know that we all want to take up the cause of freedom. Our nature is to embrace anyone who screams of being oppressed. Sometimes Americans forget that others are not motivated by the same things we are. Many times "freedom" has been the cry of the oppressor.
Iran has seen many dictators and despots. I have a hard time believing that this is the first time someone has hollered "Death to the dictator". Yet, they still answer to one…….
Maybe I've just become too cynical and cantankerous in my years, but I believe in the old cop adage: "If you want to know what someone will do, look at what they have done." There's a lot to overcome in Iran's past.
I just can't bring myself to be all starry-eyed and hopeful.
…then again… I'd really like to be wrong about this…..
The best catalyst for freedom is oppression. Our young people are asleep.
I suppose the devil can speak the language as well as the saint. And I think you make an excellent point. None of us should ever stand for JUST a word, because words have a tendency to be redefined. So I agree with your argument . . . . but not your conclusion . . .
We can and should get involved, and that involvement can and should rest peacefully alongside the points you have made so well.
I do not advocate getting involved in any way but to voice our love of and faith in Freedom for all people.
NOT financially.
NOT militarily,
NOT EVEN ideologically.
Let us lift up Freedom and see if they do the same.
I think this can do no harm and much good.
Very well said, kursten. They have been lulled into sleep by the liberal teaching in the public school system, and higher education. I look forward to your well-though out posts.
thank you.
He's wasting his time if he thinks that he can keep them from getting nukes missile. I can only hope that Israel take it upon itself to take care of the nukes sites in Iran because for sure, BO will never do so.
Isn't it a sad story when we have to think this way? It is a historical repetition of sorts but dang we should have learned something.
Many of us who did our research prior to the election tried to warn everyone but no one was interested–all they were interested in was "change" from the Bush administration. Well, CHANGE CAME IN WOLF'S CLOTHING AND WE ARE STUCK ON STUPID FOR NOT LISTENING TO ALL THOSE PUTTING OUT THE WARNINGS! We have now had five months of change and all we have for it is TREMENDOUS DEBT THAT WE WILL BE STUCK FOR YEARS! Thanks to all those that were and still are "STUCK ON STUPID."
I saw that too. I get tired of him joking over serious matters in order to avoid them. He is seriously the weakest "leader" (and I used that term loosely) the US has EVER had. He gets angry when he is challenged but he better get used to it because more and more people are starting to see right through him. The Huffington Post reporter was taken aback by Obama refusing to answer his question. If he makes the Huffington Post angry, as much as they love him, he's done.
He also said not to ask him any more questions about how his predictions of how low the unemployment rate, etc would go were so wrong. He said one question was enough. I find it weird that he can TELL reporters how many times/what type of questions they can ask him. If Bush had done that, they would have been ALL OVER him! Obama uses his charm instead of any substance and they fall for it every time. Unfortunately, being immune to his charm, I just find it irritating. I'm tired of watching him manipulate the press…when are they going to "fall out of love" with this bozo?
Well, over the years, remembering that analogy motivated me to make that decision I might have been wavering on! I've learned that no decision often makes a situation worse, or leaves one out in the cold while others move on!
LOL….I thought of that after I already hit submit. We need all the gold we can get!
The press is slowly waking up….too slowly, but it's happening like the thawing of an ice cube. Once Obama's new taxes slam onto our paychecks, there's going to be a mighty thawing more like a waterfall. Anyone lined up with Obama at that time is going to pay a steep price in the polls AND in the elections. Obama's only hope is to grab as much control as quickly as he can….his days are numbered otherwise. He'd better hope he has millions of illegals to vote for him come the next election.
…I understand exactly what you're saying. I NEVER watch him but I wanted to see if he had changed his tone over Iran today…so, I watched. I must admit, it was fun to watch him squirm but I got irritated when he started to laugh and joke around when he tried to redirect them. They did not appear to be AS amused as usual. I like the one post I saw here that said…"sitting on the fence only gives you a sore crotch"…he DID look like he was walking funny. LOL!
As far as I can tell, he has already surpassed them. Obama's bankrupting our country and hiring czars for EVERYTHING is pretty serious. That's even before his private military force is up and running.
I agree with you that it's all about policy, but I think his policy is to make the US a fascist state as fast as he can before the koolaid wears off. He also sides with dictators and terrorists, so he's not about to try to help the protesters in Iran. Obama is driving our country into the iceberg….
Can't fault your logic, my friend.
Probably true, but my point is he is nothing close to a journalist. Thank God for that, frankly.
Let's just pray that we can survive all of Obama's CHANGE. He's moving quickly and has to be stopped sooner than later. People are waking up, but it's happening SO slowly. With what Obama's done in only 5 months, where will we be by the end of his first term??
WE pay for everything…..that's what Obama's true "gift" is: spending the taxpayer's money until there's none left in the US Treasury. I think he's really preparing to be in charge of the entire world in the New World Order.
I'd like to see more non-journalists interviewing Obama. He's had it WAY too easy. You're right about HoPo, but if that type of organization can ask Obama questions, why can't Savage or Beck?
If the Republicans don't get their heads out of the sand and at least TRY to look like good leaders, there's no hope for them against Obama. If there's no Reagan, there HAS to at least be someone who's honest and believes in curbing in government spending. Is that too much to ask?