6/1 Abortion Doctor Shot And Killed In Church
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It is sad someone was killed. That said, it is only the killer's fault. I am so tired of blaming another person or group for actions of the perpetrator. Glenn Beck's letter he read on "The O'Reilly Factor" last night to Jeffrey Immelt was stated very clearly of the truth that the person who does the crime should be the only one at fault. It is nonsense that either side of the aisle wants to do these witch hunts. Enough!
I don't think that people are pro-choice because the government says abortion is legal. There were lots of abortions while it was illegal, and there would be plenty if it were made illegal again. People aren't all sheep – many people have deeply held beliefs that agree with the government sometimes and disagree other times. Not everyone who is pro-choice or pro-life is a "sheeple".
I don't condone his killing, but I don't shed a tear for him, what I care about is this Disgusting Muslim who just gunned down 2 Soldiers at a Recruiting Center and the White House didn't say a word about it. Where is the disgust by the White House and by the Dems?? There is NONE. They don't want Our Military protected under the Hate Crime Act, but they want to protect Heinous Pedophiles, who don't deserve to breathe air, not one news network is talking about this incident regarding a muslim killing 2 U.S. Soldiers (except Fox), just because they were U.S. Soldiers. Didn't the Dems say that our soldiers are NOT Victims of Hate Crimes? They are the biggest, stupidest, douche bags in this World and I despise them all. They are the reason that these 2 soldiers died and the entire msnbc crew and cnn, they are as responsible for the soldiers deaths as they swear o'reilly is for this killer tiller's death.
It's a conspiracy, I tell ya! Except that the murder of the recruiter was covered on CNN and MSNBC. Did anyone on CNN or MSNBC call for the killing of our soldiers? You gotta be kidding.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocratic_Oath
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The original oath
Original, translated into English:[3]
“ I swear by Apollo, the healer, Asclepius, Hygieia, and Panacea, and I take to witness all the gods, all the goddesses, to keep according to my ability and my judgment, the following Oath and agreement:
To consider dear to me, as my parents, him who taught me this art; to live in common with him and, if necessary, to share my goods with him; To look upon his children as my own brothers, to teach them this art.
I will prescribe regimens for the good of my patients according to my ability and my judgment and never do harm to anyone.
I will not give a lethal drug to anyone if I am asked, nor will I advise such a plan; and similarly I will not give a woman a pessary to cause an abortion.
But I will preserve the purity of my life and my arts.
I will not cut for stone, even for patients in whom the disease is manifest; I will leave this operation to be performed by practitioners, specialists in this art.
In every house where I come I will enter only for the good of my patients, keeping myself far from all intentional ill-doing and all seduction and especially from the pleasures of love with women or with men, be they free or slaves.
All that may come to my knowledge in the exercise of my profession or in daily commerce with men, which ought not to be spread abroad, I will keep secret and will never reveal.
If I keep this oath faithfully, may I enjoy my life and practice my art, respected by all men and in all times; but if I swerve from it or violate it, may the reverse be my lot.
Obama said he would not stand in the way of late term abortion…if a fetus lived he would not interfer…in other words he would save the Doctor's ass but not the baby that is ready to flushed in a toilet burned and suffocating but alive! I can except that…planned parenthood has been getting rid of babies to make sure a certain class of people did not join the living…they weren't right for society….Planned Parenthood is very evil and yet Obama will give them millions of our money so they can perform abortions to your underaged neice or daughter. The ACLU and Planned Parenent are equally evil. My daughter was 14 when Planned Parenthood decided it was none of my business on this abortion….she had to lay there alone scared having a misscariage…I didn't even have the chance to help her make a good decision. I think they are trying to get rid of a certain race…why are they gettng away with thisw?
Well, a real pro life person does not want to see anyone die. Not this guy. Not the babies. And me, I am pro life. I am often amazed that in some discussions I have had with people that they think pro life people want someone to die. I was asked once that if I was pro life and defending babies, then I must want the women to die. An odd reaction. No, I don't want the women to die. And no I don't want Tiller to die. However, it would be nice if other people also were not so quick to want to see others dead.
This is to the drive by media. Yes, we already know that the great, wonderful Tiller was killed. Yes, we know that he was only trying to help desperate women. Yes, we know that it was likely one of those Bible thumpers who committed the murder. Those stories have been on the front page of every thing for days so we cannot miss it.
Did you know that a Muslim killed a uniformed US Army private at a recruiting station? I know that you all know about that because if we dig into the interior pages of your papers the abbreviated version of that story is there. Why do you favor baby killers to our own military? Why do you show a preference to Islam over Christianity?
Doctor Tiller will pay for his transgressions now, and the shooter pays later. Those women who choose to abort…ditto. That said, I will not support ANY law that restricts a woman's choice to abort. The choice to sin is a free one. If you're a woman, you make the choice where you want to spend eternity. That's not my job.
Q about the abortionist? Will he go to heaven, or elsewhere?
Same for his murderer:
50,000,000 lives and 3 murders later… Pravda is right…
Open letter to Hoosier who sed:
"No, I'm not trying to blanket all Christians into one stereotype, but there are plenty of them out there who would support this kind of violence. "
Oh, thank you, miss manners for clearing 81% of the population…
Support of what violence?? The abortions or the murders??
If you assign a weight of ONE from each category, do you also come up with 50,000,003 ??
50,000,000 potential humans plus 3 abortionist ( so far ) murdered, right??
'Tho Shalt not Kill'.. Is there some disagreement here???
I'm wondering, what kind of person would enter a profession that would abort fetuses and engage in partial birth abortion practices? I can't imagine getting up in the morning, kissing my wife and kiddos goodbye, then going into work to do this. It seems to me the perfect candidate for a job like this would be a serial killer type. You know the kind of person that tortures animals when they are children. I don't know. I'm just thinking out loud.
The murder committed here only created a martyr, and in the end will strengthen the cause of the pro-choicer's.
This act may also increase the commitment of the left to silence people like us, the 912er's.
Churches will condemn this act, which will be twisted by the left and used against those who claim to be Christian and against pro-choice.
Any act of violence committed in the name of God will only further the lefts agenda to destroy / CHANGE / silence the Church and like minded people / groups like us.
Being a member of one of the largest Churches in this Country, I believe I can safely say the left has long since infiltrated the Church, and any act like this further influences the changes they seek to make.
I believe the Doctor received Justice, but by the wrong hand.
And I agree with a previous comment that stated he didn't have a chance to repent, although he was in Church at the time of his death, does that mean he was praying for forgiveness or was he praying for change?
I don't know the man, so I can't say. But I believe that; if I'm just assuming he was praying, it may be too much of the benefit of the doubt.
Open letter to Hoosier who sed:
"No, I'm not trying to blanket all Christians into one stereotype, but there are plenty of them out there who would support this kind of violence. "
Oh, thank you, miss. manners for clearing 81% of the population…
Support of what violence?? The abortions or the murders??
If you assign a weight of ONE from each catagory, do you also come up with 50,000,003 ??
50,000,000 potential humans plus 3 abortionist ( so far ) murdered, right??
'Tho Shalt not Kill'.. Is there some disagreement here???
Q for the abortionist? Will he go to heaven, or elsewhere?
Same for his murderer:
50,000,000 lives and 3 murders later… Pravda is right…
At first when I heard, I was elated, but then in the very next moment I knew it wasn't right to feel that way. One should never rejoice in the death of another especially since every life is precious and supposed to have meaning, but it's difficult to reconcile that when I put him on the same plane as a Gobles. Regardless, I don't feel sorry for him nor will I loose any sleep over the matter. What goes around comes around eventually. This individual who was killed in church is responsible for the deaths of 60,000 babies. Who knows he could have murdered the one who would of discovered a cure for cancer or a free energy source such as cold fusion. Sadly, one will never know what might have been because those unborn/partially born babies will never have that chance
My husband asked me what I thought about the doctor getting shot. Honestly, I told him that I felt for his family and felt sympathy for those individuals who witnessed the shooting. I certainly didn't condone the action, but I also didn't feel sorry for the doctor. He made a conscious and repeated choice to perform abortions. For years his life was threatened and yet time and time again, he made the choice. Those choices in the end cost him his life. The gunman also made a choice and he will pay the price as well.
An article in everyday Christian shows a statement from the killers ex who stated he was"very religious in an Old Testament, eye-for-an-eye way". Yep, I'm sure he was an atheist or Muslim. We'll hear more about this man soon enough and know all about him. I know my postings have been hard to accept, but they are true. Another childish thumbs down for me??? Im just waiting for a story to break out about a terror plot exposed and hear all of you jump on the "must have been a Muslim" bandwagon. There would be nothing wrong with that statement according to most on here.
More on the article.
http://www.everydaychristian.com/ap/story/2652/
Hoser,
Everyone knows that the Christian right extremists are the ones going to those tea partys…
I wouldn't be a bit surprized if there is 1 Christian ( or who say they are ) to a thousand errant, extreme muslims ( who say they arn't )…
Bet??
Open letter to Hoosier who sed:
"No, I'm not trying to blanket all Christians into one stereotype, but there are plenty of them out there who would support this kind of violence. "
Oh, thank you, miss. manners…
Support of what violence?? The abortions or the murders??
If you assign a weight of ONE from each catagory, do you also come up with 50,000,003 ??
'Tho Shalt not Kill'.. Is there some disagreement here???
Open letter to Hoosier who sed:
"No, I'm not trying to blanket all Christians into one stereotype, but there are plenty of them out there who would support this kind of violence. "
Oh, thank you, mr. manners…
Support of what violence?? The abortions or the murders??
If you assign a weight of ONE from each catagory, do you also come up with 50,000,003 ??
'Tho Shalt not Kill'.. Is there some disagreement here???
I have to admit, my first thought when hearing this was instantly "no great loss to humanity". Then, my Christian
upbringing came screaming back at me and I know that no one has the right to kill another human being…..ummm
but, that is exactly what he was doing! I hear in the media all about the "right winger christians" now, but haven't
heard anything about the "left winger Muslim convert" who just killed one army recruiter and wounded another. WHERE'S THAT OUTRAGE?
I don't think it's fair to call Muslim convert left wing. I tend to doubt that he's pro-choice, in favor of women's or gay rights or opposed to religion in the public square. Just because he's a Muslim doesn't make him a left-winger. He's probably one of the most right wing people out there. Just a different religion.
Anyway, I've heard plenty about the guy and outrage on all the channels. I wonder what you're looking for that you haven't seen.
if i were president id pardon anyone that guns down an abortion doctor
I hope that baby killer has to make a stop in heaven and gets surrounded by all the spirits of the little angels
that he denied the chance to live. God should then send him to burn forever in hell, just where he belongs.
GOOD RIDDANCE !!
Bad choice of words on my part…..I am prolife and never meant to include a group of people in this debate.I was trying to emphasize what you stated and using the excuse of being prolife to justify horrible acts.If you read my other comments you will clearly see that I am absolutely against this act and others similar in the past.
This was just an 813 month late, late, late, late term abortion…pro-choice advocates should be joyous.
That's sick.
I know. It's equally sick to abort a child late term. It's equally sick that someone decided to kill Dr. Tiller as opposed to trying to change the system internally through legal channels. Makes a pretty harsh point though, doesn't it ?
They have accused us of it before. So what? Truth has a way of creeping in to the middle of a mess. Personally, I don't care what they say or think. Our job is to correct each and every person who dares try to connect us to any kind of murder. One thing I know is that when these attackers hear you talk back to them, they just shut up! Dianne
If anything, those who are pro-choice should now better understand what the rest of us feel like while we are forced to repeatedly stand back helpless to prevent murder.
The killer's killer probably knew that he would be captured and either be executed or spend the rest of his life in prison. I am sure that he did not look forward to that end but believed the sacrifice of his one life in exchange for thousands was worth it.
Someone placed a bomb under the table where Adolf Hitler was sitting. The world still wonders what the world would have been like if Hitler had died that day. The difference between Tiller and Hitler is that like it or not what Tiller did is legal. There is not just a single abortionist but thousands, along with a whole subculture backing and profiting on the practice. Killing one abortionist does not stop the practice. It only makes Christians look radical. It also does nothing to convince unbelievers.
I am not sure if i did this right. I thought it was supposed to move the post to the top when I reply.
I wonder how many babies Dr. Tiller has Terminated in his life? One of the guys at work said "What goes around, comes around" I guess it means something like "The value of life is in the eye of the one who creates it". Interdiction is ok when the law is on your side? How bout we don't split hairs. Killing is Killing. If people can choose to make laws that allow this, they should not be surprised when the moral depravation it creates spills over and they get some on them selves.
reported on Oreilly factor over 60000 personal
Ok now MSNBC is saying the reason this guy shot this doctor was because of FOX news…………..Im so sick of reporters now… you can not tell me ths is the reason someone kills someone else, its the same as the crazies blaming shooting on video games…NO…..the reason this guys killed someone was because he had issues….and none of those issues have anything to do with whatever TV shows he watched or books he may have read…….I watch fox but I dont want to go out and kill people just because I dont agree….. It does not matter what side of the abortion issue you are on, sane people understand that there are legal ways to go about things, and taking someones life just because you dont agree is not the right way, it has nothing to do with what TV news station you watch………this is another reason I dont watch msnbc since they seem to blame everything on someone else
Two wrongs never make one right. This is the wrong way to fight this evil.
We all know that anti-abortion people are going to seen as terrorists. It is a shame but when you have an Attorney General that drops the case on the Black Panthers it makes you wonder what He'll do to execute this administration agenda. By the way, violence is never the answer unless it's just. This isn't a just cause. It is murder and that man should face justice. On the other hand if Tiller would have faced the justice he deserved he would still be alive. It makes you wonder? Did liberals sit the jury? Did they expect possibly that Tiller could be attacked and let him free? Just a thought.
It a shame the killer used a gun, he should of use a set of bolt cutters and a shop vac, then he could of used the same defense as Tiller did, 57 year old choice or retro-active abortion.
No its a shame that there is a killer. Regardless of this man's deeds, he does not deserve to be murdered.
"The RevoIution was effected before the war commenced. The RevoIution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, their duties and obligations. This radicaI change in the principles, opinions, sentiments and affections of the people was the real American RevoIution." –John Adams
If our forefathers could do it, then why does it seem impossible to create a movement among our countrymen now to do exactly the same thing? Are we as a nation incapable of moral reform?
No matter what, the Obama administration will not let this serious event go to waste. It will be another reason to tag Christians/Conservatives as dangerous terrorists who need to watched.
Are you saying that people who build bombs (he was caught with bomb-making equipment and his ex-wife testified that he planned to build a bomb) and kill people shouldn't be watched? There are freaky terrorists out there, whether ultra-right-wing Christians, crazy Muslims or weird animal-rights people. I'm pleased that our government is watching out for these guys.