5/9/09: Again We Ask, What Did The Speaker Know, Or Not Know???
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We don't honestly believe Nancy "knew" anything, do we? It is, after all, so obvious that she is totally clueless!
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anyone who votes to keep that hypocritical liar in the senat, is either insane or a traitor. her, reid, frank , ect……….what is wrong with the people in their states???????????????????????
Pelosi was wide-eyed as she replied to a reporter's question on the interrogation method briefings: "We were not, I repeat renot [sic] told that waterboarding or any other of these other enhanced interrogation methods were used."
The paper trail from the CIA says otherwise.
Take my poll at
http://www.big-government-in-your-wallet.com/pelo...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBZSBGHm0RY
pelosi sounded almost as convincing as my mom telling me the stories of santa clause and the easter bunny. what happens when the american people grow up and realize the progressive myth that is "the pelosi fairy".
Nothing is going to change. We elect these people they lie, cheat and steal. We put a person into our White house who is hell bent on turning this country into a socialist state. He puts tax cheats, ACORN, far left liberals into his administration. He flies Air Force 1 over a terrified city and we do nothing. He cuts our military and we do nothing. He opens our borders and we do nothing. He takes away our right to bear arms and we do nothing. He inacts comparative effectivness research (he chooses whether peoples lives are worth the cost of medical treatment) and we do nothing. He speaks in our religious schools and earns a degree when he argees with killing our helpless children and we do nothing. We all set back feeling helpless to stop any of this. I'm scared, really really scared.
Nan Lugosi is some disappointment and should be deep sixed along with her grandfather, Bella…
The noive of this ditz!!!
"The most transparent and open congress of all time", my eye!!! It's a scam…
What a fraud and disappoint is she, cadaver reid, and the prez have become… Flim-flams all…
Hold TIGHT!!!
Nan Lugosi is some disappointment and should be deep sixed along with her grandfather, Bella…
The noive of the ditz!!!
"The most transparent and open congress of all time", my eye!!! It's a scam…
What a fraud and disappoint is her, cadaver reid, and the prez have become… Flim-flams all…
Hold TIGHT!!!
Nacny Peolosi is a liar and she has to deal with all the problems that come with lying. If you tell the truth you dont need to play the memory game. She said " We were not — I repeat — were not told that waterboarding or any of these other enhanced interrogation methods were used". If she was honest she wold have said that she was never told that these techniques WOULD OR MIGHT BE used. Its just a little mix up that that could have been avoided by being honest.
With Clinton dropping his pants in the Oval office, then lying through his teeth about it, with no consequences, he has set a precedence. Barry and Pelosi can lie all they want and they know nothing will happen….and they are right.
Couldn't agree more my friend…Remember Clinton Explaining how sometimes its okay to tell a "little lie" if the truth was going to hurt someone's feelings or do some kind of damage. And the press was declaring just how Bill was so right and insightful and caring that he wanted to spare someone hurt feelings… I am really interested to see how the news goes after her….or not…My god…if that was a republican or conservative they would be call for a public execution….
Pelosi like the rest of the politicians of both parties are RUBISH. They are traitors pure and simple , they are GARBAGE that seek to destroy our 'empire'. The only way to fix the problem aside from a violent revolution which I am almost certain our founders whould have done after 1913 is to 'starve' the beast. Stop voting for politicians from the established parties, show up at their rallies and cause chaos by revealing their laundry list of mis- deeds and aggrssivly challenge the media and their advertisers to tell it like it is. The only way to overthrow them is sheer embarassment and begin electing folks who will are not connected to the ' machine'. It has to start at the local level, school boards, city hall, county offices ect. Our liberty is already GONE , we must take it back ……….
Can anyone confirm the rumour that Nazi Pelosi is actually Judge Judys' older. uglier, and meaner sister?
Good God, a group of sixth graders could do a better job than is being done on Capitol Hill.
That would be an insult to sixth graders (sarcasm added) ;~)
I think whats REALLY MISSING,,,is with 60 briefings,,,there were a GREAT MANY who ALSO BRIEFED,,,yet they say nothing,,nor speak up,,,Now thats the REAL DANGER IN CONGRESS,,,The OBAMA Bey ADMIN,,,its alot more worse when one has NOT EVEN had any media ( INCLUDING FOX bring it up) Yet that one form they show the typed one,,,that is ONLY 1/10 of the file,,,such brefings forms are NOT TYPED UP AT THE BRIEFING,,,those are follow ons,,,each briefing they that ATTEND MUST SIGN A WARNING DOC ,as well as SIGN IN EVEN BEFORE THE BRIEFING STARTS THAN AGAIN WHEN IT STOPS,,,as to the TOPIC,,,swearing to PROTECT the security,,,that also is MISSING,,,as well as the notes and auctual BRIEFING as that has to be approved itself,,,PRIOR to the BRIEFER doing the real breif,,,it sets out the briefing in detial and the briefer MUST STAY EXACLY AS authorized,,,NO DEVATIONS,,,,
What as I stated,,,no REPS are saying anything,,,nor are the REPS,,,as I have said many times sence joining the 9 12,,,BOTH PARTIES got some real issues as to HONESTY,,,its not just Pelosi,,,yet you can ALSO BET OBAMA/HOLDER LET THEM SEE THE WHOLE RECORD to prepare thier LIES,,,,spin,,,THIS IS NOT A DISTRACTION,,but a PERFECT EXAMPLE HOW AND WHY OBAMA,HOLDER,ALL OF THEM NEED TO BE INDICTED,,,they all are "scratching each other backs,,,and kissing each others,,,,,,:) as its only whats best for them,,,NOT THE USA,,,
Excellent post Dave. It's good that there is some insight as to what actually happens at a briefing. Enlightenment is a wonderful tool at getting the truth. We can't see the truth if our eyes are shut because of not knowing. Once again…..thanks.
Yes,,there is alot more as those PROFESSIONALS who presnt them have ALOT of policy,procedures as a safe GUARD for the VERY REASON of "those POLITICIANS who would try to claim latter they did not know,,",or as in the CASE of OBAMA,with his LACKIE AG HOLDER,( who assited the EDITING and selected distrubation ,
Yes,,there is alot more as those PROFESSIONALS who presnt them have ALOT of policy,procedures as a safe GUARD for the VERY REASON of "those POLITICIANS who would try to claim latter they did not know,,",or as in the CASE of OBAMA,with his LACKIE AG HOLDER,( who assited the EDITING and selected distrubation ,and yes,,,PICTURE SELECTIONS to be released,,and NOT the WHOLE TRUTH,,,), to use as a way to TWIST those who NEVER watched SPIKE TV "Fear FACTOR,,,or SCARE TACTICS",,,if one would look at the exacx numner and amounts of drops of water,,,it was ALL MENTAL,,,with a DR PRESENT,,,yet what OBAMA,PELOSI did NOT remark about the training and attempts to question the TERRORISTS with normal methods,,,yes,,,EVERY COUNTRY in the world PREPARES thier OPERATIVES with ANTI verbal and physcial means to RESIST,,,YOU will notice NOT one word of Chem INTERGATION,," so called TRUTS SERMS- as there are ALOT out there0 yet most leave PERMINIATE DAMAGE,),,,were NEVER MENTIONED to the media,,,yet during the briefing such was discused,and no doubt informed that subjects were RESTSTANT to normal methods,,,heck even Org CRIME has some level of SOPHISTICATION training,,,
Yes,,there is alot more as those PROFESSIONALS who presnt them have ALOT of policy,procedures as a safe GUARD for the VERY REASON of "those POLITICIANS who would try to claim latter they did not know,,",or as in the CASE of OBAMA,with his LACKIE AG HOLDER,( who assited the EDITING and selected distrubation ,and yes,,,PICTURE SELECTIONS to be released,,and NOT the WHOLE TRUTH,,,), to use as a way to TWIST those who NEVER watched SPIKE TV "Fear FACTOR,,,or SCARE TACTICS",,,if one would look at the exacx numner and amounts of drops of water,,,it was ALL MENTAL,,,with a DR PRESENT,,,yet what OBAMA,PELOSI did NOT remark about the training and attempts to question the TERRORISTS with normal methods,,,yes,,,EVERY COUNTRY in the world PREPARES thier OPERATIVES with ANTI verbal and physcial means to RESIST,,,YOU will notice NOT one word of Chem INTERGATION,," so called TRUTH SERMS- as there are ALOT out there0 yet most leave PERMINIATE DAMAGE,),,,were NEVER MENTIONED to the media,,,yet during the briefing such was discused,and no doubt informed that subjects were RESTSTANT to normal methods,,,heck even Org CRIME has some level of SOPHISTICATION training,,,
Okay, off subject: I am watching the White House Correspondents dinner on FOX. Of all the low class, idiotic things from Obamaaa to say and joke about; the photo op in Manhattan. He said his daughters were not there( at the dinner) because "they are grounded, they have to learn they cannot take Air Force One on a joyride to Manhattan no matter whose daughters they were". For decency's sake, it did not go over well. How classy!
He's a mess just like Pelosi…. as they say: "Birds of a feather, flock together!" p.s. He has no comedic timing…. George was FAR better! And I wonder who wrote the jokes???? they were mostly tasteless and not funny.
He was using notes…………probably written by his teleprompter in an attempt at job security.
"If he bombs, I'm back in his favor".
;Probably Pelosi! I didn't think there was one thing funny about that one
I think whats REALLY MISSING,,,is with 60 briefings,,,there were a GREAT MANY who ALSO BRIEFED,,,yet they say nothing,,nor speak up,,,Now thats the REAL DANGER IN CONGRESS,,,The OBAMA Bey ADMIN,,,its alot more worse when one has NOT EVEN had any media ( INCLUDING FOX bring it up) Yet that one form they show the typed one,,,that is ONLY 1/10 of the file,,,such brefings forms are NOT TYPED UP AT THE BRIEFING,,,those are follow ons,,,each briefing they that ATTEND MUST SIGN A WARNING DOC as to the TOPIC,,,swearing to PROTECT the security,,,that also is MISSING,,,as well as the notes and auctual BRIEFING as that has to be approved itself,,,PRIOR to the BRIEFER doing the real breif,,,it sets out the briefing in detial and the briefer MUST STAY EXACLY AS authorized,,,NO DEVATIONS,,,,
What as I stated,,,no REPS are saying anything,,,nor are the REPS,,,as I have said many times sence joining the 9 12,,,BOTH PARTIES got some real issues as to HONESTY,,,its not just Pelosi,,,yet you can ALSO BET OBAMA/HOLDER LET THEM SEE THE WHOLE RECORD to prepare thier LIES,,,,spin,,,
Off subject. Did any of you check out Fox Nation and see that poor excuse of a commentator Kieth Obberbite call Reagan a lousy president? In is this low or what article.
We are but just a number to our elected officials, and our elected officials are just a number to the ones behind the curtain. If the ones behind the curtain can make that kind of mess out of an elected official, imagine what they can do to us.
I agree John. If she hasn't been dumped by now it wont happen.
Time to wheel the lie detector into Pelosi's office. Might as well just take the lie detector to the next office too and on down the hallway.
Nancy "Agenda 21" Pelosi must think Americans are idiots to believe such a stupid lie.
She thinks this will all blow over, and she may be right. How many of the Obamedia are following this? They need to keep it up, because every time they take the Obama road and not say what the whole story is, they drive thousands of readers and viewers to FOX in order to get the complete picture.
If my wife told me she may have an affair, there's 100% CHANCE I would take her seriously, and strongly voice opposition to it.
Pelosi's days in politics are numbered.
Nancy wants to hold everyone else accountable. How about some accountability on your part Nancy. Madam as the Speaker of the House we expect honor, integrity and how about the honest truth. You represent all americans and right now most american want you fired. You should be held accountable just as much as anyone else involved,because you knew ,Nancy. You knew what was going on ,you did not object then. But you do object now by claiming ignorance. Stand up Nancy and be honorable, do the right thing and tell the truth.Or be a rat and continue to lie.Set a good example for the rest of you party,since you are their speaker.
What is it with the liberal left? For that matter, what is it with politicians in general. Often liberals begin their sentences with "I Did Not…." I did not know about the EIT's…I did not hear the hate speech…I did not OK those bonuses…I did not have sex with…" and on and on and on! I'm reeling from the fact that these people can and have lied repeatedly, and yet they still have their jobs!
What ever happened to integrity? What is wrong with the people that keep putting people like Nancy Pelosi in office? Are they delusional, or do they just not care? I strongly believe that there are many more of us in this country that are lovers of truth, so how do people like Nancy Pelosi stay in power? I can only believe that the "nuts" do not fall far from the tree, and therefore, the tree (Pelosi) is still standing, at least for now.
But look out Nancy Pelosi and your merry band of misfits, from the things I am seeing and hearing lately, a strong wind is coming!, I finally have hope that the days are numbered for people like Pelosi. Days are numbered for all of the out of touch politicians regardless of their party affiliation.
In the words of George Orwell: In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.
You ask, "What ever happened to integrity?" For the people currently holding the highest offices in the country it's not about integrity or honor or anything like that. It's about obtaining and keeping power. Glenn said it best when he said that our elected political heroes no longer see themselves as servants.
They see us that way.
Well said bassplayer63.
PIG PELOSI shame on you
Your time is up right now.
If I were you, I'd tell the truth
But perhaps you don't know how.
Lets just hope that she is the next rat to leave Washington.
Pelosi is an ultra partisan politician and that is all. She is using this whole torture thing to build her own political agenda and warchest. It is ridiculous to think that anyone can EVER put rules to war…..you simply can't. And come to think of it, I don't think anyone should.
The only thing i would add to your statement is that she not only uses this to build herself up but she must always tear someone else down…That is evil.. if your Ideas can't stand on their own without bashing others than maybe your belief system need refining..And i couldn't agree more on the war… I believe that we must be as moral as you can be in a war but if someone is going to blow up one of our kids and another dirt-bag knows the details…Well then the Red wire goes on positive and the black goes on the negative…Just don't enjoy it!!!
Yes, I think that is the definition of true torture—- it is using pain, deformity, beatings and even death to extract enjoyment, not just information from captives. That is wrong, to be sure. And that is where I think McCain has lost some emotional credibility since he was on the receiving end of EVIL torture for years, not just a few pertinent months. And although he did play mickey mouse with his captives, he also coughed up information under torture. The objective of any war is a quick victory, the quicker the better for all concerned—both sides. Yet simply capitulating just delays the inevitable struggle.
As the song says: People gotta be free and that is what every single war is really about. Freedom versus slavery.
This woman is so weird and hard to look at. Makes you wonder how in the heck did she get so far up in politics. Lying?
Nancy Pelosi is either incompetent to have sat through the breifing without knowing or understanding what was said, or, she is an outright liar. There is no gray area here. Too many people on both side fo the isle are saying that they were there, and were clearly informed.
If she is incomperent, she should not be viable as third in line for the Presidency, or to perform her duties as the Speaker and should be removed.. There has to be some provision that covers an inablity to perfom your duties for the Speaker as with the President.
As the ranking member of the intelegence Committee she had to aggree or had an obligation to raise any objections at that time. If she had objections and didn't raise them she is morally bankrupt for not acting on her convictions at the time. To raise the issue at this point is totally hypocritical at best and if her actions are purely politally motivated they are traitorous and criminal at worst.
I understand the point that this story is making but, this is really unimportant in the grand scheme of things unless this will convince her constituents to vote her out. I doubt that this will have that effect. There are people in San Francrackhead that would love to see Conservatives burned at the stake for any reason. As long as the Botox Bimbo can keep them happy, she will get support and ultimately get re-elected. They don't care what she knew or when she knew it just as long as she hates Conservative minded people they love her. Sickening!
botox bimbo- what a classic
Is it me ,Or does anyone else think this woman is as about as dumb as a box of rocks?
She totally lied about not knowing , She WAS told ,did she not understand? I don't think so ,
My thought exactly! She's definitely not the sharpest tack in the box. I find this woman a complete light weight in every way. Her constituents keep reelecting her but they should be ashamed of themselves. At the very least, they should find her an embarrassment.
She is dumber than the box the rocks came in!!! Really..I believe that she believes WE are dumber than a box of rocks
mcrug1 , OH I have no doubt that she thinks we are stupid ,they try and prove that daily, most of these eliteist ,absolutely thing that we should just fall in line, just follow them ,because you little people are just too stupid to do it for yourself , we will do it for you and tell YOU how to do it our way ,
ITS NOT FASCISM IF THE LIBERALS DO IT>
Hey friends. I'm going to share my experience with what the left would call torture or abuse from my days in Marine Corps Boot Camp and Infantry training school at Camp Pendleton. It's been a few years, 27 to be exact, so I'm sure there are some things I might leave out. Before I begin though, I will tell you a piece of advice my U.S.M.C. recruiter gave me the day I left for boot camp. He told me: Do every thing you are told to do to the best of your ability and as fast as you can. He was right.
My first week in boot camp I made the mistake of walking into a building without taking off my cover. A drill instructor came marching toward me with an angry, determined look and I knew something was wrong but I did not know what it was. He smacked me across the top of my head hard, snatching that cover right off of my head. No physical harm done but I never made that mistake again.
Another specific incident occurred while I was in Infantry Training School. I made an unauthorized head call and my platoon sergeant was none too happy about that. He ordered me to stand against a wall facing it and then back away two steps. He then told me to extend my arms and lean against the wall supporting myself with only my index and middle fingers on each hand. Then he just left me there. You should try this sometime. It doesn't take long before your fingers, hands, and arms are racked with pain and exhaustion. But, again, no physical damage done. (Yes, we had to request permission to use the rest room. Could you imagine our detainees in Gitmo having to wait for permission to use the rest room?)
Something that would occur happened on a platoon wide level was this. If our drill instructors were not satisfied with our performance, they would have us stand in formation and extend our M-16a1s straight out in front of us, and just leave us there. If you would like to try this yourself, find something that weighs about 7 lbs. and stand without moving holding that thing straight out in front of you parallel to the ground. It won't take you long to figure out that doing so for an extended period of time, quite frankly, sucks. Again, no physical damage, but plenty of pain and discomfort experienced.
The following is one of my favorites, just because of the way it worked out. We had to choke each other in boot camp. That's right. Part of our training included learning how to choke a man to death and we practiced this training on each other. We were instructed to pair up in two man teams. Our instructor told us that the first person to do the choking should exercise restraint because the second man to do the choking would, well, be in a position to….you get the idea. My partner went first and he did a great job giving me the experience of what it feels like to be choked nearly to the point of passing out. I gave it right back to him and he felt it just the same, if not a little more. Glad I got to go second. It was painful and unpleasant, but again, no physical damage done.
This is my first point. These things are not trivial when you look at the larger picture. If it is your duty to train people to go into harm's way, you have no choice but to be harsh, even at a basic level, to prepare those who have made the choice to go into harm's way. Those who are being prepared, at a basic level, to go into harm's way, know they have to endure that preparation. Of the 80 or so recruits in my platoon that I went into boot camp with, only about 10 didn't complete the training.
This is my second point, again, looking at the big picture. If it is your duty to protect–and this is key–to protect "those who have not chosen to go into harm's, those who expect to be protected because they are not prepared to go into harm's way", civilians, isn't the bar raised just a little bit higher for those with that duty? Maybe a hundred times higher? A thousand times higher?
Kind of puts a little perspective in the difference between waterboarding and leaning against a wall with two fingers from each hand.
Are you telling us we should shut down the U.S.M.C. because you were tortured? J/K
Be careful Madazhell, you may just plant that seed with some of the knuckleheads whom we call fellow Americans. J/K
I thought I already replied to this comment on my comment friend, but it showed up in my inbox again.
— On Sat, 5/9/09, IntenseDebate Notifications <notifications@intensedebatemail.com> wrote:
I think the point acheyjake is trying to make is the same as the one I was trying to make in my post regarding "Water Boarding". These people are hypocrites and have a double standard. All of us who served have been through these things and probably more that we don't talk about.
“As our enemies have found we can reason like men, so now let us show them we can fight like men also.”
-Thomas Jefferson
Fellow Patriot Arch, Nancy Pelosi, most of Congress and everyone in this WH isn't fit to lick the bottom of your shoe or any member of the armed forces!
ACHEYJAKE : THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND SACRIFICE FROM A GREATFULL FELLOW AMERICAN.
GOD BLESS . Your Freind In liberty
Thanks friend.
— On Sat, 5/9/09, IntenseDebate Notifications <notifications@intensedebatemail.com> wrote:
I have to chuckle about not taking off your 'cover' in a building. My husband is a veteran, too, and must not have learned that rule. He once accompanied me to court when I was testifying and was wearing a hat. The judge stopped the proceedings and made him remove his hat and gave me the glare like I had personally insulted him! I guess he didn't learn as much as you did about hats inside a building.
I chuckle at your chuckle because it is so rare for me to encounter someone who knows what a cover is.
Thanks friend, I appreciate you.
— On Sat, 5/9/09, IntenseDebate Notifications <notifications@intensedebatemail.com> wrote:
As as veteran and fellow American who served in the Army. What these "War Combatants" experienced compared to what members of our own military are subjected to as part of our training is absolutely nothing.
With all due respect I sit and laugh at those individuals that complain about how "Tough" they have it or that they were "Tortured"
My little story centers coming out of a Mess Hall after eating, not paying attention, lighting up a cigarette, then looking up and seeing an officer approaching. My taught instinct was to snap to attention and salute. One problem that I forgot. I still had the lit cigarette in my mouth. The officer stopped dropped my into a push up position with only my fingers touching the ground and left me there till he came out of the mess hall after eating his dinner. A good half hour later. You would say well hey he is gone he can't see you. Wrong there were windows and he sat at the table right in front of me, eating as slow as he could.
No real damage, tons of pain and a great deal of anger at me for being stupid enough to get put into that position.
I have no empathy or sympathy for the whining and complaining of so-called "Torture" like me they should be mad at themselves for allowing themselves to be put in a position that they did not like.
I have absolutely no tolerance or respect for those that knowingly lie. Which means I have no tolerance, respect for Nancy Pelosi and anyone else that fall into her category.
I'm sure you're all wondering why I'm replying to myself , but for some strange reason this website was not allowing me to post my full comment , so I had to post it in 2 replies ( knowing that it allowed me b4 to post long comments )
Sorry for any inconvenience
Nazi Pelosi knows :
a) That black cars contributes to global warming .
b) That it's ok to present a fraudulent Birth Certificate .
c) That arresting illegal immigrants is UnAmerican .
d) That Talibans are moderates & reformist .
e) That AlQaeda is a peaceful organisation in spreading education specially among weman .
f ) That it's ok to give loans to people without income .
g) That it's ok for CA to spend $11Billion on illegals .
h) That digging oil in CA will hurt our economy .
i ) That loving your country & defending it makes you an extremist .
j ) That an Air show of the Blue Angels is hurting the feelings of the people in San Fransisco .
k) That the attacks of 9/11 were just pilote errors . l ) That her list is long this is only 10% I will stop here
Nazi Pelosi dont know I REPEAT dont know I REPEAT dont know :
a) That the Talibans will chop the fingers of any woman attending school , so that she wont be able to write again in her life .
b) That the Talibans will behead anyone who does not agree with them .
c) That the Talibans commit real torture .
d) That Obama BinLad… oops sorry …Osama BinLaden is behind the 9/11 attack .
e) That 9/11 was a terrorist attack .
f ) That Mr Obama presented a fraudulent Birth Certificate on his website .
g) That illegal immigrants exist in the US .
h) That illegal immigration is costing CA $11Billion , thats why CA is in the hole & sinking deeper & deeper .
i ) That digging oil in CA will move CA forward
j ) That BOTOX really exist .
k) That Mr Obama is Anti- American .
l ) That she's making us puke each time she shows up on TV .
Nazi Pelosi , I know well that you're not gonna be able to understand what I just wrote , cause it's in English , but I promise you next time to hire someone & translate it to Spanish .
I just wanted to take this opportunity to advise everyone who plans on keeping this thing going that it is going to take a lot of inner strength. I really hope you realize the shear magnitude of this project and it will not be complete in a year or even ten years. This is not just a project, but a way of life, because after this you definitely will not be able to lower your guard even once. Because when we gather strength, they gather strength. But the only alternative is to watch our Liberty disappear, which is going to happen if we fail.
She's small potatoes!
I have to give Dennis Miller the credit for this one. He said: "I was watching TV one night and Mrs. Pelosi was doing an interview, it was then I realized I was watching a HACK IN THE BOX." I would add, if you want to see what blind ideology looks like, look no further than the Speaker of the House.
ROGER THAT! The Speaker, or should I say Squeeker, has been believing her own BS for so long I doubt very seriously she would know the truth if it walked up and punched her in the face.
Either way, it is only a distraction just like every other dilemma so you don't have the focus to look behind the curtain to see the currency maker's technique.
She knew absolutely everything there was to know. What kind of excuse is, "We were told that they COULD use waterboarding, not that they WOULD." If somebody told me that they COULD be stalking you, not that they ARE, wouldn't you be worried and have the police check it out anyway?
There is no difference and no excuse; if she was so against it she should have spoken out about it THEN, not now. She's trying to do something over in Washington, but only the Lord knows what that is.
Speaker Pelosi "We might set those people over there on fire, any objections?"
Of course Nancy new what was going on. The agency told her what it was thinking and she said nothing. Is she just stupid or did she really think the conversation was only theoretical. And if the conversation was theoretical why did she not say something anyway in theory only.
Nancy knew they were thinking of use these measures, she said nothing, and then she lied, pitifully, about her thoughts. Nancy is a demon. A sick demon that we need to exercise from our society. She is the apex of fraud, lies, and sickness in this government.
Please, lets get rid of this thing next election cycle.
Nancy knew what was going on. Nancy did not stop it or try to stop it. Now the cover up will begin. She keeps pointing fingers at them, and now all the facts are pointing at her. Tell the truth Nancy, it might even get worse.Just tell the truth.
She's just a liar. Can we dispense with the pleasantries? She lies. She continues to lie and obfuscate, which is the MO of her party.
Calling a politician a hypocrite (or a liar) is simply redundant.
Very Good MR2. You should know that you think very similar to Mark Twain who had this famous quote: "Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself."
Mark Twain (1835 – 1910). You should also know that voters polled by Rasmussen also agree with you one day when 49% of them stated that Congress would improve if you replaced them all out with random names out of a phone book. At this stage, I believe Rasmussen shows BOTH Republican and Democratic Congress at a low 20% approval rating each.
She's so busy rehearsing her lies… she actually believes them. "What a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive!"
"First".for San Fran Nan? ya gotta be joking.
I'd love to live up to my handle (bipartisan) but the filthy behaviour of the left is breathtaking, Bill didn't have sexual relationships with that woman, and didn't inhale, Bawney Frank doesn't know what caused the Global financial crisis, Dodd thought some else told him to allow the AIG bonuses, and Nazi Pelosi wasn't briefed repeat wasn't briefed.
Unfortunately the right is so wimpy and let the leftist talk over them, that they let them constantly get away with it.
At least Hannity fired Idiot(colmes) who has been one of the worst offenders in the media.
Good on Beck for not letting them do that to him, look at how he handled the CT weasel Attorney general, and that slimeball from ACORN, or should that be A CON.
I'd love to live up to my handle (bipartisan) but the filthy behaviour of the left is breathtaking, Bill didn't have sexual relationships with that woman, and didn't inhale, Bawney Frank doesn't know what caused the Global financial crisis, Dodd thought someone else told him to allow the AIG bonuses, and Nazi Pelosi wasn't briefed repeat wasn't briefed.
Unfortunately the right is so wimpy and let the leftist talk over them, that they let them constantly get away with it.
At least Hannity fired Idiot(colmes) who has been one of the worst offenders in the media.
Good on Beck for not letting them do that to him, look at how he handled the CT weasel Attorney general, and that slimeball from ACORN, or should that be A CON.
.Nancy Nancy She's so old she can't remember her own name let alone a metting she had ..shes mind melting..
What did she know and when did she know it?
What did she know and when did she forget that she knew it?
Did she ever know what she knew? If she did know that she knew something, who told her when to forget it?
Whoever it was that told her to forget what she knew and when to forget it, that is the person we should really be looking for. I say that because I'm pretty sure Pelosi isn't sure of what she has known, when she knew it, or when she forgot it.
Another "I was for it before I was against it" moment.
From Webster's Dictionary:
Torture \\ torcher\\ ; Tortured; Torturing: to cause intense suffering: torment: to punish or coerse by inflicting sever pain: twist: distort.
Regarding "Water Boarding"
As someone who has been waterboarded when I was being prepared to fly over enemy / hostile territory, this is totally psycological, or as we said in the 60's and 70's, getting psyched out. At the moment you are terrified, and when it's repeated, even though your rational understanding of the situation from the previous experience tells you you that you"ll survive, you are afraid. "Fear is the mind killer" to quote Frank Herbert. I know only a few people who are able to totally put it behind them. The bottom line is it causes no physical injury. And if it is torture, why do they allow it to be done to our own people?
On the other hand, based on the definition above as "Torture Truthers" twist and distort the facts, causing us intense suffering while they torment us, are they not guilty of torture as well?
yep, nothing more than a "mind f***" as the libtards would say.
Having some background working with the psychiatric profession, I cannot help but notice Nancy often has the same look as the schizophrenic in her eyes…
You make me LOL Texan, thank you a ton.
Pelosi lying? OMG now that's a real surprise isn't it? Geeze. The one good thing in this is that the people who actually work at the CIA are really really ticked about this entire situation and THERE WILL BE PAYBACK you can bet on it. She isn't even going to see it coming. You don't screw around with these folks and deliberately put them in danger without paying a price for it. She's not dealing with amateurs here and they will find a way to keep Panetta out of the loop too.
Between her and uncle fester…… some days I can not stop laughing. Then there is the Don and his gang . These are the people that tell us what to do. Omg . Are we screwed.
It would do this old country lady's heart good to see he up on charges. She is the one that wants the truth to be told, that cracks me up, One thing Pelosi forgets is that it takes a liar to have a good memory, which is already proven that she doesn't. I have sent an e-mail to Holder telling him to get her and get her good. Which I know he will not but who knows maybe oh just maybe he will.
Snowdog mom , Iam sorry to say Eric Holder Will not do anything to this woman , But god bless you for trying ,
THis whole congress and president, are completely corrupt , nothing these people do will be looked in to they will get away with destroying The United States < I can only Hope that we can Stop it .
GOD Bless , YOUr freind in Liberty
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Give me LIBERTY or give ME DEATH!-Patrick Henry
This is the biggest joke of the day, Dems talking about morals:
"U.S. lawmakers traded jabs Saturday over President Obama's plan to close the Guantanamo detention center, with Republicans calling the plan "dangerous" and Democrats saying it would restore America's moral standing in the world."
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/05/09/republ...
Even BHO is reconsidering that one. He pulled the trigger too soon, before he got all the info on it. Could you imagine what the outcome would have been for you as a senior marine had you say… flew a plane over NYC. You'd get canned in a minute for making a decision based on nothing, or sent straight to jail like some of our fellow jarheads have from the Iraq campaign. Closing Guitmo is dangerous, and they have nowhere to put these guys. I could give a flying crap what our so called "moral standing" is in the world. I sleep fine knowing Marines, and Soldiers are kicking the crap out of those guys. Hell I'll invite 'em over for a BBQ… Great A– kicking today guys… Have a steak.
Good old Clintonian politics. Is, is unless is,is. Good grief, can’t they just own up to anything? Are they all pathological liars? Do they really think we can’t figure it out?
Thank God for one outlet that will let us figure things out for ourselves without those tingly feeling anchors tainting the days story I guess.
They're all pathological liars and think that the public is too stupid to figure it out. Quite frankly most of the public believes anything they read or hear. Unfortunately few of the media outlets are interested in telling the truth. That makes it worse.
To answer your questions………NO……..YES definitely……..& YES! : )
Maybe all that excess skin that they pulled up doing her facelifts was stuffed in her ears…
But…really…She is just plain and simple…a LIAR.
this is a farse,,, the terrorists have NO geneva convention rights, as i keep hearing.. they are not a country or army of a country…. the geneva convention doesn't pertain to them… where was leahy and pelosi, when they were chopping off heads and etc: leahy never served in military,,, he's clueless like the rest
This is all that is needed to about this:
"If you ever injected truth into politics you have no politics."….Will Rogers
If her fingerprints are truely found on this, which I think they will be, will President Obama keep releasing information and seeking proscution of those who had a hand in this crime against a missunderstood group of people vacationing in the caribbean? I think not. Heven forbid that a Democrate could have anything to do with such a thing. They are to busy condoning the killing of children vie abortion to sink so low. It makes me wounder how She can look her self in the mirror and NOT be reminded that dross floats to the top.
I don't know how she can look in the mirror without seeing Heath Ledger. Oh wait, his lipstick was straighter.
She is either dumber than dirt or lying through her teeth. The scary thing, she's third in line for the Presidency should something happen to "Dumb and Dumber".
I came to the conclusion long ago that to many demrepub politicians, the "truth" is whatever they say it is and that many of them actually believe their own lies. Of course, Obamatrons and other political zombies often believe the lies.
One of the most important things we can accomplish is to push back and elect more honest politicians (oxymoron?) so that the honest ones outnumber the dishonest ones.
This may be a total result of a Botox overdose! The symptoms are easy to spot, forgetfulness, kleptomania on a huge scale (stealing from others), a surprised look all the time (probably from meeting so many people for the first time because you have forgotten them), care of fish over people, flying long distances to watch ice melt (she went to Greenland to see global warming, in our jet!), despising any one in uniform (Army, Navy, Marines, Air Force, Police, State Troopers, there are so many uniforms and they all look alike), can no longer read (obviously she didn’t read the 1,100 page trillion dollar expense bill or the Constitution), total detachment from religion (had to be scolded by the Pope) and makes your hands wave around.
I really dislike this woman and wish that she would move to France where her ideas have been tried and have already failed.
Thank you Glenn for helping to keep this story alive….The mainstream media is going to try to sweep this under the rug….its up to you guys at Fox and talk radio to keep this the number 1 story of the day…….This disgraceful woman needs to be held accountable for her fake outrage telling lies to stir up hate around the world against America.
This whole anti-Bush issue is silly and destructive. Any one else here swim? I almost drowned once and I would guess that happened to others as well. While I have many thoughts on that moment, none are that it was torture. Torture to me is bad physical pain, at least as bad as a dentist, or the loss of a body part or function. To understand torture, watch one of the liberal Hollywood movies such as Saw or Hostel where liberal hypocrites eat popcorn and enjoy paying money to see real torture. For my part, I hate those movies and turn them off. But maybe the real gitmo torture was the caterpillar in the cell trick. Oh My God! Not the caterpillar thing! Anything but that! I guess the guards at one time said it was an evil caterpillar but then stopped saying it was evil since the red cross objected. Then there were the gitmo doctors who stood around to ensure no one got hurt. Well, if the terrorist had a brain, they would figure out that whatever is going to happen is not too bad. The average gitmo prisoner I hear gained 20 pounds and no limbs lost. Does that sound like a POW camp?
No kidding. Fraternities do far, far worse to pledges during Rush week. Some of the so-called tortures the Red Cross whined about are things people all over the world pay to have done to them. An S&M bar has more dangerous fare.
Yes, exactly TFMo. As for caterpillars in cells, we are sure that at times we have had coyotes, scorpions and a rattlesnake in our back yard and had visuals on two of the three. So I dont get that point either My question would be – does anyone really think this is torture? Or do most of us think this is all tongue in cheek a partisan attack? The only attack I had heard in Gitmo that was really bad was a prisoner on a lady. He grabbed her head and smashed her face into the bars. I understand that after 20 plastic surgeries, they cannot put her together again. But of course, that one will never make the papers since that would be pro gitmo. As for Americans being evil, logic tells us the opposite. The problems in Iraq were that the factions were held at bay from each other by an evil dictator. As soon as the nice Americans came in and Sadaam was no longer mass murdering anyone who stepped out of line, the factions clearly said "party time" since the US was viewed as no threat to stop violence. So the reality is that we are nice guys.
I passed a kidney stone – let me tell you that was torture.
Try two root canals with an immunity to lidocaine and a root that hides on x-rays with a nerve fiber that's not attached to the rest of the nerves in your jaw, so a nerve block does NOTHING.
For all those Hogan Heroes fans we should refer to Pelosi as Sgt. Schultz Pelosi cause she knows nothing and hears nothing.
The fact that Pelosi lied is not as disturbing as this quote in the story:
Pelosi noted that the media had reported this week that CIA Director Leon Panetta wrote in a cover letter accompanying the briefings memo that "the descriptions provided by the CIA may not be accurate."
So she lies, Panetta, with help from the press, tries to save her butt by attempting to portray the CIA as incompetent .
So now we should only trust Pilosi, Obama and the rest of the clan, and no one else. Now they have alienated the police, the military and the CIA along with tens of millions of Americans. Sounds like a recipe for disaster. It can only be intentional.
The fact that Pelosi lied is not as disturbing as this quote in the story:
Pelosi noted that the media had reported this week that CIA Director Leon Panetta wrote in a cover letter accompanying the briefings memo that "the descriptions provided by the CIA may not be accurate."
So she lies, Panetta, with help from the press, tries to save her butt by attempting to portray the CIA as incompetent fools.
Pelosi was informed of the "torture." Maybe, because of all of that botox, she did not process the information. I don't believe that for a minute. She knew and this was a big deal until she was implicated. Now, it will be quietly swept under the rug. She is one of the nastiest people out there.
Wonder if she has alzheimer's? That's a medical condition that needs imediate attention. Perhaps we can remove her from her throne because it is unhealthy for everyone in the US.
Why is it that poloticians can get away with using plays on words? "Well it depends what is your defenition of "is"." -President Bill Clinton… "WERE USED" -Nancy Pelosi
I don't trust or believe anything from anyone on the hill any more. Wait a minute….I take that back…….the only thing I believe that was truthful, was during the inaugeration when obama said quote…."and I will EXECUTE the United States Of America….." Now THAT I believe!! Even THEN…..he tried so hard to tell the truth but it was brushed off into a slip of the tongue. yeah right….
It's the typical Pelosi dance. She is so full of hate she wants the pubs to be prosecuted for their alleged crimes. Now that she has been found to have known about the enhanced interrogation techniques, she is scrambling. This doesn't fit into her plan. As a matter of fact, if proven true, it could make her and several others look really bad.
The Queen is the one who needs prosecuting for you pathological lying!
This is the same person that was going to clean up the swamp that is congress….can we all say Barney Frank, Charlie wrangle, how about M. Waters and others whose spouse got money from the TARP because they are in the banking business. How about the fine job F Raines was doing at Fanny Mae. Frankly I think the swamp has gotten deeper.
She already looks like the walking dead anyway. Maybe we should help accelerate the death of her career.
She should teach a course on semantics and spin – that's her true calling. Yet, she can't be removed from office for perjury, so sad.
I think she can be removed, but no way will the house vote for that.
Even if she was under oath, she wouldn't….Just look at Slick Willy, lied before a Gran Jury and nothing, Average citzen, up to 5 yrs in jail.
Even if she was under oath, she wouldn't….Just look at Slick Willy, lied before a Grand Jury and nothing, Average citizen, up to 5 yrs in jail.
Poor old Nancy. She was in a meeting a long time ago where she thought they were discussing skate boarding and water skiing. She simply got confused.
Maybe she was in a room with patients who were using medical marijuana just prior to making her statements. Was she in SF at the time?
A major case of CRS!
Yes, that makes sense. She must have been having a senior's moment. It can happen to anyone over 70.
It also happens to people a WHOLE LOT YOUNGER!
Someone in Washington politics lied? No ,that can't be! I'm shocked, shocked I tell you! Say it ain't so, Joe!
After all, this is the MOST transparent administration and congress in the history of the world, isn't it?
What's really amusing is that one Democrat official (Panetta, a skunk in his own right) is basically calling another Democrat official, (Red Nancy Pelosi) a liar. If it weren't so sad it would be funny. But it doesn't matter what party they are from, they're all true low-lifes!
God, if you can find it in your plan, please help America get rid of this corrupt group of scum as quickly as possible!
This is shocking. I'm still trying to get used to the idea. I had no idea that politicians lie. What has the world come to?
Nancy Pelosi lies and Barney Frank and Harry Reid swear to it! These three are the most corrupt politicians in Washington. They ALL knew what was going on and, the bottom line, it was necessary. They can't even be honest enough to admit it.
Anyone who believes that war is fair if fooling themselves. How is it that we are the only ones who have to play by some set of arbitrary rules? IF you are going to take the step to go to war…you better be prepared to do what is necessary to do to WIN! Water boarding is benign compared to the tactics of our enemies. I'm sure Harry Truman spent many sleepless nights before and after ordering the use of the A-Bomb in WWII killing 1/2 million people (not to mention the aftereffect) and the left wants to make Bush a war criminal for WATER BOARDING??????
WAR IS NOT PRETTY…but, sometimes necessary. How does the far left think they have kept their freedom and are able to spout off about how much they hate the US? If they are not willing to fight for freedom…it's time for them to pack up and move to Europe. We all know when the going got tough there they called on the US to save them.
Good comment. The left are so consumed with hateful emotion, they have lost the use of their brains. It's all about gaining political advantage. Nevermind that it takes a huge about of lying and exaggeration as well as the help of the mainstream media liars. They HAVE TO WIN. Have you noticed that Dems deep down are horrible bullies? Look at the bullying Pres. Obama and his staff have done to force Chrysler creditor to forgo their rights. Makes me sick. Of course Repubs aren't innocent. They're wimps who put self interest above standing up for what they say they believe. Argh! What a mess we have in congress.
It's like a saying a college professor told me once: If you have too open a mind, your brain will fall out. This is clearly what has happened to many voters.
You're complety right about having to win, and being bullies. Put another way; All bullies are cowards
My own personall experience bears this out without exception
Not to mention, there were over a thousand casualties alone in the TRAINING in preparation for D-Day at Normandy. Also, we lost around, now get this, around 75 or 80 thousand casualties in ONE BATTLE during the Battle of the Bulge in WWII. One battle that lasted about 5 weeks. 75 thousand dead, wounded, or captured in 5 WEEKS. The problem with most people is they don't bother to learn history, therefore, they are unable to put the concept of war in context.
War is hell, way is chaos.
Why study it when you can rewrite it a later date? Hold it, we won't be around to rewrite it if we're dead because we chose the path of political correctness–and removed serious mention of war in textbooks today.
The Democrats of today have no desire for freedom, what they do have is a desire to control. They don't want us to have freedom but they want the freedom to control us and make us do their bidding. Oops! I forgot, the Republicans don't seem to be much better. They are still a party aren't they? Can't tell much difference now a days.
…lol. Yes, they are still a party but I'm sorry to say they really have let a lot of us down. I am no longer affiliated with a party and consider myself to be an Independent. I've recently taken a look at the Libertarian party because what we currently have in Washington is not working! Democrats (I call the Jackasses for their well-chosen mascot) are absolutely out of control and Republicans have definitely lost their way. Neither party represents me and I'm hoping in 2010 we can start taking Washington back by finding people to elect who are fiscally responsible and will uphold the Constitution!
Maybe we are wrong to hope she will be kicked under the bus by her district. Truth is the lady is already brain dead, maybe she should be buried.
I suspect that her voting district is brain dead too. They'll vote her back in no matter how corrupt she is proven to be. Actually, the entire set of house dems must be brain dead to vote her in as speaker.
You know "pot" can do that to you if you do enough of it! They are all in a haze most of the time because of it!
San Fran Nan can do no wrong out there. She is their savior or messiah. That is why housing the Gitmo detainees out there in her district would work great. They could easily blend in.
I've said before, I'll say it again, there is one of two things wrong with the Queen Bee. The Botox has effected her brai, I mean with all the up and down during BH0 speech before congress it sped it up to the brain and when she sat down, it was pushed in. the second is that there was too much drugs in the 60's, or maybe she is attending the Wednesday night parties at the White House. Either way she is lying and the Americam people (at least some of them know it).
"Everything is changing. People are taking their comedians seriously and the politicians as a joke."….Will Rogers
Until it became a means to gain political capital with her constituents, she remained silent. And she knew, despite her very Clinton-like efforts to deny she knew.
But this should make you pause, " Pelosi noted that the media had reported this week that CIA Director Leon Panetta wrote in a cover letter accompanying the briefings memo that "the descriptions provided by the CIA may not be accurate." I remember Panetta as White House Chief of Staff – I didn't like him then either. These kinds of commentswill certainly endear him with the intelligence community as he further politicizes his office. It's all part of that CYA game that all play inside the Beltway – until it gets too hard to do that.
I odn't see anything coming from Pelosi getting caught up in any backwash. Nothing has happened to Rangel for hos obvious ethics issues. Why would you expect different for her?
There are two sets of rules and laws..One for the elite and another for the likes of you and me..
You are so right. Everything now, including jury verdicts, seems based upon favoritism and class warfare. The political class can do anything they want without impunity. Look how many people in this new administration have cheated on their taxes. There is no honesty anymore.
Anyone with half a brain knows that she needs to go. Unfortunately she is from a district in California that is ultra-liberal. She keeps the pork going to her district, so it is unlikely they will turn on her. The only hope is that one of these outragous bills that passes will get her district to take a hard look at the damage being done. I don't know when she is up for reelection.
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Proof that she actually did know will so improve the rest of my days here on earth.
I fear going to my grave not knowing the truth.
Wait!!!
I think she did know,,,,,,I think I'm feeling better,,,,Really, who cares and what difference will it make in the big picture.
If we could get her to lie under oath about taking steroids (look at her, I'm sure she does), then we got sumpin.
You will find out the truth about Nancy P, when we find out who murdered JFK or the truth about area 51. Till then expect to be put off.
Actually its the Botox!
What will happen if she did know. What would happen. Can she be held accountable? Would she be held accountable? We does her seat go up for reelection? She needs to go.
She is just like all representatives. She is one of the 435 seats up in the 2010 midterms.
Anyone with half a brain knows that she needs to go. Unfortunately she is from a district in California that is ultra-liberal. She keeps the pork going to her district, so it is unlikely they will turn on her. The only hope is that one of these outragous bills that passes will get her district to take a hard look at the damage being done.
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That's a good point. I keep forgetting that area's relationship to pot!
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Good analogy. If too open a mind makes your brain fall out then Dems and asome others are guilty.
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I forgot to throw politicians in there too.
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Touche'
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We must have been responding at the same time.
One would think the left would be happy that we stopped a genocidal madman from killing innocent people by the hundreds of thousands. Just goes to prove that liberals are NOT humanitarians.
Americans are evil, like conservatives are mean spirited. It's flippy-floppy. Some of the stuff that I see on MSLSD is the most mean spirited garbage I've ever heard said about everyday American citizens. Shameful.
TFMo. Again I agree with you totally. Some more ammunition for us along those lines. Jane Fonda and John Kerry wanted out of Vietnam saying they wanted to save lives. After Americans pulled out 3 million Asians died in that region. 1 million by the North punishing the South, and 2 million by the Kmer Rouge in Cambodia. Another issue often missed is that my internet tells me that over 50 million people were killed by Communists the last century. 40 million by Mao alone. And of course there was Russia and SE Asia. But what the far left is upset about in both Hollywood and our schools was Senator McCarthy who said .. hey, ya know? Maybe these commies, maybe they aint nice guys? So the left forgives 50 million plus deaths and shoots the messenger. Whatever McCarthy said or did was not enough, since the 50 million died AFTER his era. If McCarthy was wrong, how did Russia get nuclear knowledge so fast? And why did Khrushchev compliment his US spies at that time?
Yes, and knowing when it is allowed and when it isn't. My husband is a 1st Cavalry Veteran he gets to wear a 'Stetson.' And going into a building and not uncovering when playing the Star Spangled Banner is really a big test. He is always having to look at others to see what to do—should he remove, should he keep it on??? The only time he uncovers when wearing that officially is during a prayer and during TAPS.
It is your choice not to study history.
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I've noticed the all bullies are cowards thing too.
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Ugh. Don't EVEN get me started on what those liberal commie sympathizers did to McCarthy. They should have all been hanged for treason.
Most people probably don't know this but the symbol of the donkey goes back to Christ himself. When he rode into Jerusalem he rode in as a King in peace, that is how kings did it for centuries. When they came in as conquerors they rode a stallion. Jesus rode a donkey once but will come again on a white horse. The democrats have perverted this lesson by using this symbol. So what is new?
As for the Libertarians I don't agree with some of there stands and especially on their stand on the defense of this country.
I think I am leaning more to the Constitutional party myself.
Yes, I have guns, yes, I have a bible and know how to use it, yes, I speak out, so does this make me an extremist?
…the Libertarian stance on defense was actually the one thing about them that DID bother me (and I'm not a big fan of Bob Barr). I believe the US must maintain a strong military. On most other issues I have to say I did agree with them. I will have to look at the Constitutionalist and read their platform (although I'm guessing the name says it all). I'm concerned that if we have too many options we will end up with the status quo and that is unacceptable to me.
Honestly…That was one of the things that Kinda worried me about John McCain..I often wondered …and don't get me wrong..I can't say that i wouldn't feel the same after being beaten 3/4 to death…arms broken and on and on..that when push came to shove, if he wouldn't have had trouble getting the information we needed..If not out of sympathy, for the terrorist, but for the memory of the situation that he was in.. God bless him and his service and I feel his heart is in the right place but sometimes, in war, you have to check the heart at the door..I mean, that we still have to be American, but sometimes we just have to do what we need to do!!
Yes, and we have to always focus on what is best for America in general as well as for yourself in particular. No one wants to be a sacrifice for nothing. I did support McCain because I felt his experiences in the military did give him a greater appreciation for the workings of our government than someone with a short track record in the Senate did.