5/6/09: White House SIgnals A Tougher Set Of Rules For Isreal
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15- In Conclusion- THERE NEVER were a people called Palestinians!! There were tribal people of a region that the ROMANS called Palestine. They are Arabic people that NOW are living in the area that they occupied with Jews and Christians for the last 1900 years. They have been rejected or pushed out of Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, and Jordan, and other “brother” Muslim nations over the last 100 years. They have NO RIGHT to claim ownership of a land that was never theirs to begin with. They ALWAYS LIVED under Jewish rule, or a conqueror of the Jews, for the last 3500 years. So they can SHUT THE HELL UP and deal with it or MOVE!
You hit the nail on the head!
Where is his birth certificate?
How dare he tell the european socialists that America is not a Christian country, that's not his call to make
yes he absolutely wants to destroy the USA and Israel
and yes look at what he did To the CIA and To GM and To Chrysler, and look at what he's doing For the unions, and For Acorn etc etc etc….
AP- WASHINGTON D.C. – In a move certain to fuel the debate over Obama's qualifications for the presidency, the group "Americans for Freedom of Information" has released copies of President Obama's college transcripts from Occidental College. Released today, the transcript indicates that Obama, under the name Barry Soetoro, received financial aid as a foreign student from Indonesia as an undergraduate at the school. The transcript was released by Occidental College in compliance with a court order in a suit brought by the group in the Superior Court of California. The transcript shows that Obama (Soetoro) applied for financial aid and was awarded a fellowship for foreign students from the Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program. To qualify, for the scholarship, a student must claim foreign citizenship. This document would seem to provide the smoking gun that many of Obama's detractors have been seeking.
I think BHO lied and he isn't a Christian at all he is a Muslim.
Today he didn't do anything for National Prayer Day and his state of Hawaii voted to make Sept. 24 a holiday for Islam.
I think BHO not only wants to destroy us but he also wants to destroy Israel.
Our country should never have elected someone named Barack Hussein Obama.
I sure wouldn't trust anyone with a name like that, and his actions seem to be proving he can't be trusted.
Look what he did to the CIA
Full disclosure; I'm neither Jewish, nor Israeli, just a well informed engineer.
This BS is all about commerce and trade, BHO and hillary have figured out that Israel, through neccesity has had to developed weapons and systems, especially electronic warfare systems which are the best in the world. Therefore they do not have to buy from the US, and since the BHO admin genuises have now cancelled the most advanced systems like F22, and ABL, why would they?
We are submitting …….. what message has he sent when one of the first actions he took just days after Israel bombed the Gazza … was to give special executive permission for the Palestineans to move here and 11.4 milliono to do so? What message does it send to give, 900 billion to rebuild the Gazza that we borrowed from a communist country? What message does it send, when Obama covers Catholic emblems at Georgetown? What message does it send, when Obama does not come to a prayer day that gives him an opportunity to lead our country and show that he wants God's blessings? It's like spitting in the face of religious people accross the nation…
Who wrote this question??? I hope it wasn't Fox…they misspelled "Isreal." The correct spellng is "Israel."
Thank you so much for the information, I sure hope they can us it to get BHO out of office before he completely destroys what used to be great about our country.
I noticed your comment about the spelling of Israel and I know you are correct and I just wanted to mention that when I type I do things like that all the time. My new keyboard is slower than my older one and sometimes the letters don't end up in the order that I wanted them.
Thanks so much again for the information, I thought they just gave up on it now that he's commander and thief.
BHO hasn't shown his birth certificate or his college transcripts, we know that he lived in Indonesia under a different name, I wonder if he is American at all. I don't trust him at all with Israel and I think he lied about being Muslim. During the campaign he distanced himself from Muslims but today he didn't honor the traditional National Day of Prayer and I heard that his home state of Hawaii just make Sept. 24 an Islamic holiday.
Maybe Obama buzzed Manhattan just to gloat at us that they did put their Muslem flag over our white house.
It's sad and really makes me mad what that beast has done to our country and the potential danger he puts Israel in.
Grand Juries are forming all over America to bring Obama to justice on his natural born status and election process. A Georgia Grand Jury had indicted him. Texas will be next.
The Isrealites are god's people ! Any one who has come againsts them in the past has fallen, brush up on your history, As for me I will stick by Isreal' s side and defend her if I have to. I feel sorry for all Americans who live in the U.S.A. if Obamah chooses to go against her!!!!!!!!
The writing on the wall is so clear to see. In the bible it also says that the Isrealites are God's people. And he will not let anyone destroy his people. If he(BHO) keeps this up, we will have no alies to stand with and none to stand with us. He has disrepected all of them. And bowed to enemies. He is turning America into something that makes me sick. We have to stand. 2010 will be the time. If he doesn't destroy America first.
Actually, we're all Gods' children, but you're right the land now known as Israel is the promised land for the Jews, and the Arabs are the invaders. Also the Persians have no right to get involved nor even have the right to comment, let alone threaten the destruction of the Jewish State
So much for Free Speech.
Please note the moderator removed some of my comments to your replies on this particular post.
I thought they were in a civil tone, just answers to your questions regarding my original statement that now has -22 rating.
At least somebody is listening.
Okay..and this goes for all the LAME IDIOTIC UNEDUCATED MEDIA DOOPS out there….READ SOME HISTORY!! Find out what a Palestinian TRULY is and where/when/how/and why ISRAEL was created. In brief for those of you as uninformed and uneducated as some here…
1 – The Israelites first settled in the land of Canaan around 1800-1500 BC. HELLO…over 3000 years ago. They found there several other tribes including Philistines, Hittites, and the Semite people now called Hebrews (who also worshipped the god of Abraham as the "One, True God." )
2 – Over the next 500 years of so, the two people came together and seperated and came together. The land of Canaan included what is today Israel, Jordan, parts of Syria, and Lebanon. It was finally united under King David and then his successors until about 775 BC.
3 – Over the next 700 years, the united nation of Israel was invaded and subjugated by the Assyrians, the Babylonians, the Persians (by way of conquering Babylon), the Greeks (by way of conquering the Persians), and then by Alexander the Greats Generals after his death and collapse of his empire.
continued…….read on and learn something….
4- By 164 BC, Israel was once again free and allied with a new empire, Rome, as a "friend of the Senate and Rome", receiving their protection and assistance. The land was now classified under Rome scholars as being multiple lands including the southern kingdom of Judea, the northern kingdom of Galilee, and outlying regions.
5- Rome conquered the area in 61BC. THE WHOLE REGION of little kingdoms was ALL IDENTIFIED as PALESTINE by the ROMANS. There were Palestinian Jews, Palestinian Arabs, Palestinian Roman citizens, and eventually Palestinian Christians.
6- The Romans ruled over the area as Palestine until about the fourth century AD. They put down at least 3-4 major revolts from the Jewish people in that time. After the fall of the Roman Empire in the late 4th century/early 5th, rule fell to the Byzantine Empire.
7- In the 7th century, around 630-640 AD the Arabic tribes with their new Muslim religion conquered the region. Christians and Jews remained there and actually had very HIGH populations in some areas of the former Roman/Byzantine region of Palestine.
continued…part 3…gawd this stupid limit on a post REALLY is annoying
8- Turkish rule – Egyptian rule – Crusader rule. All from around 1030AD to 1291 AD
9- Mameluk rule that gets conquered by the Ottoman Empire…1300 to 1798 AD. Jewish population again began to grow and was ENCOURAGED in the Palestinian regions of the Empire, especially around Jerusalem and the former Judean kingdom.
10 – Napoleon conquered the region, killing large number of all people and faiths. By the 1880’s the Jews were only about 5% of the nearly half million Palestinians of the region. (YES..ALL PEOPLE IN THE REGION WERE CALLED PALESTINIANS EVEN THE JEWS AND CHRISTIANS THERE).
11 – From the late 1800’s into the time leading up to World War I, Jews were encouraged by their religious leaders to return to the HOMELAND. Their population went from 5% to nearly 20% of the region in under 40 years.
12 – British and French rule of the area once again DIVIDED the region into Palestine, Syria, Iraq, transJordan, and other regions. Deals were made, treaties with tribes create, and EVERYBODY LIVED in PEACE…Jew, Christian, Arab, and Muslim.
The President wants Israel to go to the peace table with terrorists who want to annihilate Israel, and the Arabs don't even recognize Israel on there maps, and the Arabs want Jerusalem as there capital. The President says he's a Christian if He was he would support Israel and protect her from those who want to annihilate her.
Isreal is the country that has kept the world from the greatest nuclear threats. Netenyahu, will be protecting the U.S. as well as Isreal if and when they strike… He's no fool he sees right through OB's plans.
"Last month, Hillary Clinton, the US Secretary of State, warned Israel that it risks losing Arab support for combating threats from Iran if it rejects peace negotiations with the Palestinians."
Please, enlighten me if I'm ignorant, but where is this Arab support for Israel coming from?
Jordan, Syria, Egypt, Oman, UAE, and the Saudis all have very long memories. Those who rule Iran are not Arab, they are Persian. The Persians have twice conquered huge parts of the Arab world. The Arab world, as a just consequence, considers the Persians a very real threat. As the saying goes, "The enemy of my enemy is my friend."
You've got an excellent point there, but there are certainly people within those countries (like the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt) that want Israel gone. I'm not sure that since they consider Iran a threat they consider Israel an ally, but you never know. Iran might overstep their bounds and piss them all off and be "wiped from the face of the Earth".
i picked up on that part, also.talk about threats!! The world waited too long in 1938, i fear we are repeating history!!
Why is it that no other country in the region, Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Iran, or Iraq, will give the Palistinians some of their land so that the little pukes can have their own country?
Could it be that:
1) those countries don't want the troublemakers near their country?
2) what they really want is for Israel to be gone
3) both of the above
What they want is the Isreali land already planted and watered for them, because they are to lazy to do any thing but whine. Anything they have taken over in the past has gone back to desert in no time. I do not believe Benjamin N. is not going to lay down on this one, He will do every thing he can ALONE (they will be ) to protect Isreal. Please pray for them for I believe the time is close to making their move! What will the rest of the world if this happens?
Both of the above! I like your thinking!
No, the Texans will handle the situation! And true patriots from all over will flock to the new San Jacinto battlefield to help out any way they can!
I don't see Bidden or Obama handing down harder rules to China or Russia.They are the enemy not Israel.
Yes, the Balfour Declaration would have saved a headache down the road.
I was unaware the Grand Mufti told them to leave. They should have participated in their destiny.
I agree, land for peace never works, they call that appeasement.
I agree, no nation has the right to dictate, unless they hold some kind of purse string. If they want complete freedom and independence, then quit asking for my tax dollar – and that goes for everybody.
I support ISRALEL with every fiber,,,Obama is a fool to play games with anyone that he has when ISRAEL has made it clear to the WORLD and has DEMONSTRATED it REPEADLY it will not get into the SEF DUSRTCT the PC world has become,,,Obama,Hillary,the UN will be as they are gutless,PC COWARDS,,,,Iran has made it prefectly clear it will ERASE ISRAEL for the face of the earth,,,I fully support our ONLT TRIED AND TRUE ALLY of ISRAEL,,,the rest are only meeting with thier habds out as PC AMERICA POLITICANS think all it tkes to remain safe is MONEY,,yet NEVER ONCE HAS THAT worked,,heck how many BILLIONS to N KOREA,,,yet my biggest worry is Obama,Biden,HILLARY,PELOSI when the time comes yes,,as by our US CON that is the line of comand,,,,GOD HELP US,,,and yes,,ISREAL has made it prefectly clear and gave a rough dead line that it will PROTECT ITSELF,,,,so our so called elected officals better start the "hanky waving" and think,,,,as ISRAEL is fed up with the PC UN,PC AMERICAN,,a STRONGER PEACE is made with BACKBONE,,,not gutless cowards,,,AMERICANS are NEVER COWARDS,,,,seems like when they get elected its some illness CDC should investigate,,,,:)
This problem is so complex that it boggles the mind. I'm just glad that Israel is armed to the teeth and ready to defend their right to exist. I think we should stay out of the whole thing. That part of the world has been a the place of holy massacre for countless generations. Is it really that complex? It is if you try to understand the incomprehensible. If you have the patience to study this issue, you had better be an expert on the issues we are facing at home. The book "The 5000 Year Leap" has shifted my focus from international garbage to more important things like our own domestic activities.
If Ahmadinejad wants nukes so badly, maybe Israel should give him one… I have already grown weary of the 100+ days of capitulation by the current administration. Obama's approach has been to strong arm and offend our allies while bowing to our enemies, and apologizing for our existence to people who survive as nations because of it. Frankly, it has me yearning for more of that "cowboy diplomacy" we had even just 4 months ago. I won't say Obama is the AntiChrist, but he sure as hell is the anti-Reagan. I really hope we only have to survive 4 years of this crap. I also find myself praying we -can- survive 4 years of this crap.
I hope Bebe Netanyahu doesn't take any ^*#(^ from the community organizer and he bombs Iran. Bebe is a counterterrorism expert, wrote books on terrorism and was in the Israeli special forces.
Compare that to B. Hussein Obama's experience – worked with Acorn on the south side of Chicago.
Bebe should ignore this light weight and level the nuke sites in Iran.
I think it all stems from guilt. Those who are being hurt by this president and those who will be hurt by this president, who voted for this president and still support this president, feel guilty for various reasons.
Ayn Rand believed that once you could make a person feel guilt and feel responsible for that guilt, that person would accept any punishment for that guilt, no matter what the person was supposedly guilty of.
Disclaimer: I don't speak for Ayn Rand. I'm not an Ayn Rand expert, obviously. That is just how I interpreted her beliefs concerning this.
I have to agree with you Acheyjake, great thought. This is also a counseling theory in psychology. Used often in group therapy where people will and can share why they think they feel certain ways about situations that they didn't know they even felt about. I think we have so many people right now regretting their vote, and we will continue to have those that will continue to stick by their choice although they know they made the wrong one. Group think comes to mind. To watch, during the campaign, all those crowds that were listening to Obama speak, but not HEARING what he was saying. Frightening, absolutely frightening.
I'm not going to ask you \”Who is John Galt\”. However, I will ask you, \”Where is John Galt\”?
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It's one thing to disagree with the way Israel institutes policies in their country. It's another thing entirely to tell them what to do. The arrogance of BHO is phenomenal. I am stunned and amazed as to the extent to which he goes.
However, I am reminded of an old saying, you give a man enough rope he'll hang himself. BHO will stumble and fall over his own arrogance and the poor policies that he is instituting. My deepest concern is that we will fall with him because his mistakes will be that large. May God have mercy on us.
Prayer…..is really our only defense. God is in control.
Tomorrow (Thursday the 7th of May) is National Day of Prayer.
If you participate make sure to pray for our nation and for Israel.
God can still do great things with and protect both nations, but we need to humble ourselves, ask His forgiveness for past sins and obey the Creator of the universe.
Israel is Gods chosen people. Palestinians have committed mass murder and would like nothing more then all the Jews to die. Obama supports his Arab countrymen. America’s punishment will be severe for turning our backs on Israel.
We will see which side obama chooses. I bet he doesnt back Isreal and makes it look like its for their best interest, or at least that's what the media will report. He's such a scumbag.
Hey! If we give money to all these Arab countries, including Hamus ,aren't we contributing to the terrorist?
BHO reminds me of the little kid that still feels compelled to put his hand on the burner, even after you tell him its hot. Somehow he believes, he has all the answers to the worlds' problems, when history would suggest otherwise. The Palestinians are not interested in living peaceably with Israel, as evidence by Gaza. Israel needs to do what Israel needs to do, and our naive President needs to mind his business and realize that fire is actually hot.
Arrogance and the lack of any harsh criticism when you are wrong will do that to you.
He's not naive, he's a muslim and knows exactly what he is doing.
IsrAel is a strong nation, they do what they need to do to survive and protect their citizens. When they fight, they fight to win no matter what. The White House in its effort to Pander to Hamas has now painted themselves into a corner. Because the time will come in the next 3 1/2 years when Israel will be tested in order to test the USA's abilitity to stand by these new rules.
I am a old man I was raised on Christain values.When I a young boy we could leave our doors unlocked at night.Then the government stepped in to our lives and know they are in Israel's life telling them what to do.Who gives Obama and Bidden the right to order Israel.They can not run this country much less Israel.That land belongs to Israel and nobody else!I will side with Israel this is the holy land it was my teaching.I as a Christain can not turn my back on those people.
If I could no longer live in the greatest country on earth (The United States of America) then my next choice would be Israel. As a Bible believing Christian, I know that it is dangerous to turn your back on Israel. No good can come of this. Except maybe hastening the return of the King of Kings and Lord of Lords.
Are people on this site still disagreeing with me that Thief in Chief is the Anti-christ? Every action he takes should convince more and more people…..he is NO friend to Israel, but he will still try to broker a peace deal. The stupidest thing I have heard lately is that he wants the gov't to take over student loan funding!…..they will give out student loans as long as those students commit to "gov't service"….whatever the hell THAT is. I have NO intention of selling my kid to the gov't, just so we can pay for college. I guess if this goes through, we will have a lot of uneducated people, still living at home with their parents.
How would we like it if Israel told us to let Texas, Arizona, and California create their own Hispanic country….geez, tomorrow is National Day of Prayer…this adminisitration, Obama and Biden, in particulalr, need to spend some time praying for wisdom…something desperately lacking so far. Israel will exist long after we are gone, count on it.
Ladies and gentlemen, fellow Americans, please watch this video of Israels Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu as he addresses AIPAC (American Israel Public Affairs Committee)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A7SWQ5BAR4
And here is a pretty convincing article about why the Prime Minister has concerns.
Iranian Army General Commander Ataollah Salehi boasted that "it will take us 11 days to wipe Israel out of existence. (if it attacks)" http://israelinsider.ning.com/profiles/blogs/iran...
The site that hosts the article seems a good place to go for the general "feel" of things from an Israeli perspective.
-Al
The Iranian general tends to confirm my suspicions that Iran already has nukes and is just prodding Israel to get them to attack so that Iran can be seen as the agrieved party instead of the instigators. Once Israel attacks, Iran will then respond with the nukes that have already been married to their long range missles and are just waiting on the launch order.
Israel should have their nukes on alert just in case. I would send a handful into Syria just to make sure they don't get any ideas at the same time I sent several handfuls to Iran.
It is getting close to the time to make the rubble bounce. Buy stock in Windex!!!
Lets see asking Israel to chill out with the incresing prospect of another Holocust loaming over the horizon while bending over backwards to "not offend" anyone most importantly the messianic(sp?) nutjob incharge in Iran…this really is geting incresingly dangerous with this naive person in charge.
Look for Iran to actually get a nuke before the end of the year and Israel to go after them…no if's, ands or butts. What will be tellingg is who is the loudest and fastest to condem Israel…the current adminisatration or the gulf region (who would be relieved when and if Israel does it).
Israel is our strongest ally in the mid-East. Why we would we not help them? obama is probably too busy apologizing throughout the world.
Good, I think it is great. Maybe once Israel bombs the crap out of Iran, and they will, the great BHO will have to finally decide one way or the other. Are we with Israel or against them. I just hope we get our troops out of Iraq before both Iran and Israel start lobbing missles at each other. I don't care what anybody says I support Isreal 100%.
Imagine if a country like Cuba started launching rockets into Florida just because they wanted to. How many rockets would it take before Cuba became the 51st state? I am willing to bet two or three, but when Hamas fires hundreds of rockets from Gaza we are supposed to feel bad for the poor Palistinians. That is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard, so it must be coming from the liberal media.